00:41:25 <04dracoomega> Well, I think these numbers are hopefully good enough (so I'm going to move onto a few other fixes) 00:41:43 <04dracoomega> (And some other small things like making their colours in console correspond to spellschool) 00:59:34 -!- indigaz26 is now known as indigaz2 03:32:22 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5261-gd9800d219b 05:14:25 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.34-a0-166-g0397c6d (34) 07:49:18 <08nicolae> hell yeah, pinnacle of evolution. claws up 10:00:17 <09hellmonk> gonna merge 4601 less lord of the labyrinth and readd crusher as op skill rank 4 title 10:08:03 03Hellmonk02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4601 * 0.34-a0-108-gfac46a211f: Title updates 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fac46a211f72 10:29:26 03antimachina02 {GitHub} 07* 0.34-a0-167-g585f80a30c: Add several new skill titles (#4601) 10(55 seconds ago, 1 file, 19+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/585f80a30c84 15:39:09 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.34-a0-167-g585f80a30c (34) 20:59:56 <04Cgettys> ooooh, incensed? Lol. Good pun 😄 21:00:56 <04Cgettys> I know I'm late to the party: orb of corners. Not an orb. Destroys all other orbs that come into LoS 21:02:27 <04Cgettys> Yeaaaah... we don't instance textures sensibly, do we? graphics isn't really my area, but in general, nothing about the current rendering seems.... great 21:03:20 <04dracoomega> I'm not talking even at the level of dealing with texture and openGL calls. They are just so many layers of indirection between 'contents of the map' and 'what gets drawn to the screen' that makes reasoning about a lot of it needlessly difficult. 21:04:05 <04dracoomega> And almost none of it is documented well (or at all!) 21:05:09 <04Cgettys> Psshhhhhh, who needs docs 21:05:24 <04Cgettys> Even if there were docs, they'd probably bewrong 😛 21:05:58 <04dracoomega> Sometimes 'incorrect, but at least conveys intent' can still be helpful 21:06:11 <04Cgettys> TBF, some of that indirection is because we have 3-4 different renderings 😄 21:06:20 <04Cgettys> (webtiles, local tiles, console?) 21:06:40 <04dracoomega> That certainly isn't helping matters, but even just local tiles' system has a lot of confusing snarls in it 21:06:59 <04Cgettys> But it's not something nice or comprehensible like MVVM or whatever 21:07:52 <04dracoomega> Like, things like identified potion tiles are composited in 3 different ways for local tiles alone 21:08:11 <04dracoomega> Or was it 4? 21:08:13 <04Cgettys> Maybe if I'm feeling brave I'll try to reduce that to two 21:08:45 <04Cgettys> But then again I still have unmerged prs to iterate on 😛 21:09:56 <04dracoomega> Frankly, I think it would be hard to improve a bunch of things here without massive changes. Some parts of the system (not all; a couple are fine) are so deeply entrenched that I have genuinely felt that 'replace from the ground up' would be more tractable than trying to untangle and incrementally improve. >.> 21:10:19 <04Cgettys> Sometimes that's the best way, yeah 21:10:21 <04dracoomega> Like "Forget about how it currently works; just look at what we want it to do and make it do that." 21:10:40 <04Cgettys> Been there, still there, don't have the t-shirt yet 21:10:47 <04dracoomega> (But that is still an absolutely massive undertaking that I am in no hurry to do >.>) 21:11:12 <04dracoomega> Simply not worth the cost when there's so many things to do that have far more player-facing payoffs 21:11:19 <04dracoomega> For the effort involved 21:11:42 <04Cgettys> Kidding a bit. Got one copy of the t-shirt but need several more before I can shread the old one 😄 21:11:57 <04Cgettys> If one were to do it 21:12:08 <04Cgettys> I'd wrap it up with the wasm thing 21:12:36 <04Cgettys> I.e. One tiles ux to rule them all 21:12:47 <04Cgettys> Yes still need console too of course 22:35:01 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.34-a0-167-g585f80a30c (34) 22:56:45 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.34-a0-167-g585f80a30c 23:13:18 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.34-a0-167-g585f80a30c (34) 23:16:37 New branch created: entitledplayers (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/entitledplayers 23:16:37 03hellmonk02 07[entitledplayers] * 0.34-a0-168-g2df3f0d356: Proof of concept for challenge titles 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 46+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2df3f0d356fe 23:54:55 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.34-a0-167-g585f80a30c