00:10:28 <04Cgettys> No major issue, but I do want opinions on whether we think https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4378 can make 0.33 or if it's better to let 0.33 go by and try to get that in early in the development of 0.34. Balance is better than it was, but may need more nerfing/adjustment of effect/ something. Also still needs one bit of flavor - I don't have a good name for who made it 😄 00:12:29 <09gammafunk> feels like we can probably fit that in 0.33 in that we have two weeks until freeze. Better to just keep iterating with it and see where things go rather than declaring outright. I can try to play with it some tomorrow probably 00:13:15 <04Cgettys> That's be great, Monkooky gave some good feedback I still don't feel like I have a great feel for its balance, even though I've played with it for hours 00:13:34 <04Cgettys> Partly because I still suck enough that I don't have a great feeling for balance 😄 00:53:53 <04Cgettys> Necropolis looks fun 00:53:59 <04Cgettys> just found it for the first time 00:56:00 New talismans was not on my weekend list 00:56:02 nice one! 00:56:43 <04Cgettys> Weirdly tho it thinks i'm done explorign even when there's an unopenedghost vault 00:57:04 <04Cgettys> I have the save if someone wants to look 01:24:03 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1250-gd062ae842b: Fix a crash with creeping infernos exploding (aliasthespectator) 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d062ae842bb3 01:32:46 <04Cgettys> Some new warnings on clang, will put in a PR tomorrow probably 01:32:47 <04Cgettys> transform.cc:1242:12: warning: 'get_description' overrides a member function but is not marked 'override' [-Winconsistent-missing-override] 1242 | string get_description(bool past_tense) const | ^ ./transform.h:108:20: note: overridden virtual function is here 108 | virtual string get_description(bool past_tense = false) const; | ^ transform.cc:60:18: warning: unused variable 01:32:48 'EQF_NONE' [-Wunused-const-variable] 60 | static const int EQF_NONE = 0; | ^~~~~~~~ transform.cc:79:18: warning: unused variable 'EQF_RINGS' [-Wunused-const-variable] 79 | static const int EQF_RINGS = SLOTF(SLOT_RING); 01:51:59 ctrl+A of medusa form only says "a - You are" 01:55:52 -!- khadgar0 is now known as khadgar 01:56:58 <04Cgettys> Well it's not... wrong 01:57:13 <02Monkooky> you think? 01:57:23 <04Cgettys> Therefore I am. 01:59:38 <04Cgettys> oh come on, Cogito, ergo sum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum ? nothing? 01:59:45 <04Cgettys> I thought that was a brilliant pun 01:59:58 Bazinga! 02:01:52 <04Cgettys> Yay, somebody appreciates my humor, terrible though it may be 🙂 02:03:59 <02Monkooky> that was the joke I was already going for yes 02:04:13 <04Cgettys> Oh, lol, I see 02:04:22 <04Cgettys> I walked right into that 02:04:27 <04Cgettys> backwards, apparently 02:04:50 <04Cgettys> hmm, I need to dig into the new forms, are any of them Vs bite preserving... I wonder 02:07:34 @Cgettys Medusa only nukes cloak and helm so it should work. got my claws as a troll at least 02:07:47 <04Cgettys> I still have bite in Quill form I think 02:10:40 <04Cgettys> But unclear if does antimagic still? 02:14:27 After all this years yak is finally a playable race... well sort of 02:14:37 *touches screen* Home... 02:29:06 unfortunately blade talisman still exists and is as pointless as ever... 02:38:03 <04Cgettys> I tried to pull off a VsFi shapeshifter 02:38:14 <04Cgettys> but I'm bad and I don't think it's a good combo 😄 02:38:21 <04Cgettys> trying a Mf Shapeshifter now 😄 03:05:44 xom ported me inside runed vault in a necropolis 03:07:37 F U N 03:16:42 <04Cgettys> The art on the new forms is great 03:32:41 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5261-gd9800d219b 03:45:28 flux form cat looks very very cursed 03:46:38 like humanoid pants and hood supperimposed on ghostly cat 05:16:27 mumra: you asked about random2avg. The formula there is (random2(max) + random2(max+1) + ... + random2(max+1)) / rolls. The max possible value is therefore (max-1 + max + ... + max) / rolls which is rounded down to at most max-1, so it's not off by one 05:25:16 letschi2 (L23 CoFi) Crash caused by signal #8: Floating point exception (Depths:2) 05:32:48 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.33-a0-1250-gd062ae8 (34) 08:31:54 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1251-gc14d4a9f51: Fix medusa stinger being able to do damage with slaying (Lightli) 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c14d4a9f51b1 08:36:30 !crashlog letschi2 08:36:31 1. letschi2, XL23 CoFi, T:68938 (milestone): https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/letschi2/crash-letschi2-20250405-122516.txt 09:06:55 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1252-g8c2c6fc0b0: Be a little more explicit in flux bauble's description (Planckenstein) 10(53 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8c2c6fc0b084 09:46:04 <06mumra> Ah yeah i deleted my post on discord after when i realised the first roll makes it work, but obviously deleting doesn't work on bridge 😉 I may add a comment to the function as its easy to miss on a quick glance how the one roll is different to the others 09:54:13 <06mumra> @dracoomega I initially thought the flux bauble was going to be along the lines of being in a state of flux meant you swap talismans very quickly. So more of an emergency consumable if you get in a situation where a particular form would be much better 10:07:07 <04dracoomega> Well, it does let you leave a form in a hurry, at the moment (something I have... moderate concerns about in lategame, tbh...) But no, it was intended to be a transient power spike between quill and protean forms, and something to make shapeshifter actually shift in and out of forms multiple times from their starting kit, which I think helps them feel a bit more 'shapeshifty' 10:13:45 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1253-gaf41fc2b4a: Fix hive form giving negative regen at very low skill. (Lici) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af41fc2b4acf 10:13:45 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1254-ga54df15eb3: Always be able to make at least one bee, at very low skill Hive form 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a54df15eb368 10:13:45 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1255-gc7b98f8d14: Fix A screen claiming dragon form sill breathed only fire (Lici) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7b98f8d1453 10:13:45 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1256-g2990fdbb04: Remove most autogenerate resistance fakemuts for forms 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 76-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2990fdbb04f9 10:25:26 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1257-g21d5be53e8: Fix a syntax error in sphinx riddle reactions (cool3) 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21d5be53e89d 10:38:42 <06mumra> Oh right i thought that's the intent but reading the description it didn't really seem clear as it's largely talking about the combat buffs/debuffs 10:45:51 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:46:10 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:46:45 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:46:59 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:47:18 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:47:50 <04dracoomega> Hmm... looks like the creeping inferno crash I fixed last night >.> 10:48:14 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:48:26 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:48:38 <04dracoomega> Guess I'll force a rebuild 10:48:39 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:49:15 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:49:27 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:49:44 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:49:56 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:50:26 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:50:37 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:50:49 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:51:08 <04dracoomega> Assuming it's even listening to me 10:51:13 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:51:31 odbg100 (L27 GrFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Geh:2) 10:57:03 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.33-a0-1257-g21d5be53e8 (34) 11:52:14 I think there is fresh green zesty saftig design space for a summoning playstyle that leads from the front instead of hiding behind 7 skeletons 11:52:32 TSO kinda sorta wants to go there but he just stops halfway 11:52:45 time for revolution 11:54:35 well I guess forgewright also kinda goes there 12:02:14 <09gammafunk> Looks like it did in fact listen 13:19:32 <06pleasingfungus> wow 13:19:33 <06pleasingfungus> forms 13:21:47 <09gammafunk> things are really shaping up 13:32:35 <04Cgettys> groan that pun 😛 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1258-ga6c7e407a8: Don't claim storm form has rPois- (cool3) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6c7e407a83a 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1259-ge530c6ecf2: Don't claim Walking Scroll's skill bonus is 0.5 higher than it is (Lici) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e530c6ecf234 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1260-g16e3111c1b: Mildly nerf Eringya's Surprising Crocodile (hellmonk) 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16e3111c1b00 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1261-g3ee7a2e22b: Mildly buff Sculpt Simulacrum 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 15+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ee7a2e22b50 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1262-g8ec9f772c5: Allow simulacra to swim 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 8+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ec9f772c5c9 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1263-g0526e4ba42: Fix hailstorm being very slow on webtiles 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0526e4ba42bd 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1264-gb00addd42c: Remove a couple now-unused functions 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b00addd42ce5 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1265-g4491eb6210: Don't skip a variety of attack effects on quick blade's second attack 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4491eb6210ac 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1266-g1042a406b4: Fix dragon form breath using an unintended formula (Oneirical) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1042a406b43c 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1267-gb83392f031: Fix a bunch of forms incorrectly having pants on some species (Oneirical) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b83392f0314f 14:25:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1268-gb1c48543f7: Don't let Shadow Torpor immediately break Cause Fear 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b1c48543f7e3 14:43:33 04Build failed for 08master @ b1c48543 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/14285928818 15:07:35 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1269-gdf68cfba8e: Fix a unit test case 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df68cfba8e59 15:07:35 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1270-g05e272bded: Remove self-damage restricton on Aqua form's steam clouds 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05e272bded98 15:07:35 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1271-g5b159af9e7: Be more explicit about Medusa form's poisoning range (cfcfcfcfcf) 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b159af9e7c1 15:07:35 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1272-ga0e6e5b276: Allow Fire Storm to spawn vorticies on any terrain 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a0e6e5b276bb 15:18:13 New branch created: pull/4446 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4446 15:18:13 03Cgettys02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4446 * 0.33-a0-1258-gc9a605e584: refactoring: a few warnings and cleanups in the new forms code 10(82 minutes ago, 2 files, 23+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9a605e58400 15:18:44 <04Cgettys> @dracoomega - here's a few minor warning fixes for your commit storm 😛 15:21:44 <04Cgettys> The new content is a lot of fun 🙂 15:27:47 03Cgettys02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4446 * 0.33-a0-1273-g166b3f1460: refactoring: a few warnings and cleanups in the new forms code 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 25+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/166b3f14600d 15:28:05 <04Cgettys> Whoops, missed a spot - one more warning I can get rid of :D. EQF_NONE is still unused, but other than that I think that PR cleans up all new warnings 15:39:28 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.33-a0-1268-gb1c48543f7 (34) 16:20:50 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1273-g5232bdbd2e: Mildly improve Platinum Paragon's autotargeting (Oneirical) 10(20 minutes ago, 6 files, 47+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5232bdbd2e14 16:26:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1274-g8ec457024c: Checkwhite 10(56 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ec457024cee 16:38:58 04Build failed for 08master @ 5232bdbd 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/14286720715 17:31:28 thanks rngesus flawless tech window from inkwell to honey djinn 17:32:37 (you still lose the reg from the troll leahter you'd wear but still neat I guess) 17:34:00 also trypophobia warning becuase literal living beehive 17:47:08 fire honey. 20:57:48 New branch created: pull/4447 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4447 20:57:48 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4447 * 0.33-a0-1275-gc338e50b42: Add beastmaster terrariums vault 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 110+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c338e50b4248 21:22:45 <04dracoomega> Really confused why fetching this PR locally is only getting one of its two commits 21:23:10 <04dracoomega> Oh, nevermind 21:23:20 <04dracoomega> Silly syntax error of mine >.> 21:31:47 03WizardIke02 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.33-a0-1275-geed9a5f3f1: Fix incorrect max magic after using artifact MP+ talisman 10(33 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eed9a5f3f1c4 21:31:47 03WizardIke02 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.33-a0-1276-g53fe09bee8: Fix swapping between talisman of the same type 10(32 hours ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/53fe09bee8a2 21:35:46 <04dracoomega> Oh, damnit 21:36:05 <04dracoomega> I edited the commit message claimed I changed it, but didn't actually get the changes into the commit 21:36:06 <04dracoomega> T.T 21:36:20 <04dracoomega> "What is this one unsaved file VSCode is claiming I have?" 21:37:22 tkirkby (L9 OpSh) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(type)) in 'monster.cc' at line 3177 failed. (Ossuary) 21:38:09 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1277-g959a2634c1: Actually commit the changes I claimed I made to the last commit 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/959a2634c180 21:44:32 03regret-index02 07* 0.33-a0-1278-ga9e06e29dd: Partial vault review, Necropolis vs talismans edition 10(9 minutes ago, 12 files, 424+ 252-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9e06e29dd66 21:44:32 03regret-index02 07* 0.33-a0-1279-g34aa4bc718: Move sky beasts out of Y and into F 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34aa4bc7186c 21:55:45 04Build failed for 08master @ 959a2634 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/14289054456 22:16:19 03gammafunk02 07* 0.33-a0-1280-gfc8086f953: Fix a DES typo 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc8086f95332 22:35:50 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.33-a0-1280-gfc8086f953 (34) 22:59:35 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.33-a0-1280-gfc8086f953 23:22:05 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1281-gda8ebc6330: Fix a crash with solar ember flare and summoners 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/da8ebc633043 23:22:05 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1282-g6054d9cdd8: Fix rime yak form having no prayer_action (BTC) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6054d9cdd8e2 23:22:05 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.33-a0-1283-gbf7406bced: Don't allow monsters to act on 0 delay turns (Darby) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bf7406bced20 23:24:31 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.33-a0-1280-gfc8086f953 (34) 23:35:29 04Build failed for 08master @ bf7406bc 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/14289780570 23:56:01 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.33-a0-1283-gbf7406bced