03:33:21 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5208-geafff8c3b6 05:12:57 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.33-a0-163-g6f3bd40 (34) 11:21:21 <04dracoomega> @pleasingfungus Any objections to me merging the refactoring branch today? 12:14:11 <06pleasingfungus> nope! 12:14:50 <06pleasingfungus> i’d hoped to look at it more, but time did not suffice. as the french might or might say, “say la vee” 12:15:49 <06pleasingfungus> thank you for doing the big refactor! 12:16:46 <04dracoomega> My pleasure 12:16:50 <04dracoomega> Well, after a fashion 12:16:51 <04dracoomega> ^^; 12:17:14 <04dracoomega> 'Work that feels good to have done' 😛 14:13:42 <08nicolae> hm. with the new refactoring, will it be possible to use vault MONS syntax to make a monster unrewarding 14:23:06 <04dracoomega> No. But I'm curious what you would want to use that for anyway? 14:31:58 <04dracoomega> (Like, doing this wouldn't be hard on a technical level, but I'm unsure what use-case there is for this) 14:43:35 <09gammafunk> This is an opportunity to tell nicolae: "NO!" 14:43:45 <08nicolae> fixing up hydra_factorialization (or what i'm going to replace it with) so it can have 1-headed hydras again without being easy xp for anyone with a slicey weapon 14:44:04 <08nicolae> wow. Wow. i can't believe you are trying to INFECT the other devs with your TOXIC and ANTI-NICOLAE NEGATIVITY 14:45:28 <09gammafunk> https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppet-muppets-sesame-street-gif-13903638497215494068 14:45:41 <04dracoomega> I'm... a little hesitant to fill a room with joke monsters that we then specifically need to mark as giving the player nothing 14:46:06 <08nicolae> i figured. but it never hurts to ask. at least not until gammafunk finds my address. 14:46:33 <04dracoomega> (I think Index wanted to make the vault place corpses of one-headed hydras or somesuch, but that also doesn't work at present) 14:46:50 <08nicolae> would it work with undead hydrae? 14:46:53 <08nicolae> hydroi 14:46:55 <04dracoomega> (If you try to tell the hydra corpse how many heads to have, it just ignores it and generates it at random) 14:47:04 <09gammafunk> Hydragi 14:47:13 <04dracoomega> I think that would work, but that has the same XP problem it always did, just slightly smaller 14:47:54 <08nicolae> apparently the actual plural (at least in the nominative) would have been "hydrai" 14:48:01 <08nicolae> αἱ ῠ̔́δραι hai húdrai 14:49:22 <08nicolae> anyway i will accept this fate, there are other mathematical patterns to work with 14:50:29 <09gammafunk> No way, pretty sure that 27 and it's divisors are the only numbers 14:50:41 <08nicolae> well then i'm fucked 14:50:48 <09hellmonk> what about its multiples 14:50:57 <06regret-⸸nde※> Pretty much this. Numbers jokes don't really justify 39 different copies of the same adjusted enemy- even the hydra spamming old ends combined them with swamp dragons. 14:51:12 <08nicolae> it would only be about twenty or so. 14:51:14 <06regret-⸸nde※> 72 isn't a multiple of 27 either.... 14:51:21 <08nicolae> but it should be imo 14:51:31 <06regret-⸸nde※> 27+9+3 = 39? 14:52:08 <08nicolae> oh, no, the multihead versions wouldn't need to be unremarkable, i think, since you can't kill them in one swing 14:52:36 <08nicolae> that's why the 1-headed ones got cut, iirc, they die before their singular head can regrow 14:52:41 <08nicolae> lol, "got cut" 14:52:52 <09gammafunk> Got axed 14:53:15 <08nicolae> but you still got the xp for a hydra kill, so you'd make work of the room with a slicey weapon and rack up the expees 14:53:47 <06regret-⸸nde※> This feels to me roughly in the space of trying to defend a D:5 vault that places 20 gnolls in two boxes but they're split between throwing nets, branded weapons, and polearms. 14:54:00 <08nicolae> in any case, i am not planning on using 1-headed hydrai in the replacement vault anyway 14:57:17 <08nicolae> also: that's a very good idea, i will implement it when i get home 14:57:27 <06regret-⸸nde※> v_v 14:58:19 <06regret-⸸nde※> I should just swear off communicating with anybody besides Draco in either public channel for a week. 14:59:24 nicolae does this to people… 15:28:40 <09gammafunk> what if we ask draco to tell r-i things 15:29:58 <12ge0ff> that's what i've been doing for 2 months 20:02:58 <04dracoomega> Well, turns out enough stuff came up today that I don't have the energy left in me to handle potentially putting out multiple fires in real-time, so I guess I will merge tomorrow instead ^^; 20:03:21 <04dracoomega> (I hope there are no fires, but one never knows and I'd rather be sure I'm available ^^; ) 23:46:26 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.33-a0-163-g6f3bd40977