01:51:52 New branch created: pull/3946 (26 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.30-a0-188-gb982cc2e58: Add indicator for rampage (Local tiles) 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 9 files, 72+ 52-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b982cc2e58a7 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.30-a0-189-g259de46378: Revert "Add indicator for rampage (Local tiles)" 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 9 files, 52+ 72-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/259de4637851 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.30-a0-725-gb5aaa7d305: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/Monkooky/crawl 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5aaa7d305f2 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.30-a0-926-g9e59eae262: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/Monkooky/crawl 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e59eae262aa 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.31-a0-234-g316450b57e: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/crawl/crawl 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/316450b57e9b 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.31-a0-642-g73a2aa7848: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/crawl/crawl 10(11 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73a2aa7848d6 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.31-a0-723-g52fad65156: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' 10(11 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52fad6515621 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.31-a0-843-gf62d5d0059: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' 10(10 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f62d5d005935 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.31-a0-977-g14c3af0080: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' 10(9 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14c3af008018 01:52:06 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3946 * 0.31-a0-1337-g363372f58a: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/crawl/crawl 10(7 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/363372f58aa4 01:52:06 ... and 16 more commits 01:52:20 <02Monkooky> god damn how do we stop this 01:52:36 <02Monkooky> this is 22 'merge branch master' commits 01:55:41 <04dracoomega> Oh geez 01:56:34 <04dracoomega> (I mean, don't worry about the botspam, to be clear. It happens :P) 01:56:55 <02Monkooky> the 'files changed' is like 8 lines but god damn this commit history is a mess 01:57:27 <04dracoomega> Wow, it really is a tiny change for 22 commits 😛 01:58:31 <04dracoomega> (I mean, I can just pluck out the relevant commit) 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1941-g480633aa27: Clear the pursuers list after uncontrolled blinks/teleports 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/480633aa27e8 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1942-gcde8aef498: Rename a couple confusing zap_types 10(5 hours ago, 3 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cde8aef498c8 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1943-gc1ca0b895e: Display hoarfrost cannon damage in Hoarfrost Cannonade description 10(5 hours ago, 3 files, 25+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c1ca0b895ef4 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1944-gdf025e5179: Fix random rounding in Rimeblight spell description (Acrobat) 10(5 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df025e51796a 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1945-g87d6e9d5b4: Make recasting Canine Familiar give a minor duration boost at low duration 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87d6e9d5b470 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1946-gafbbcc1b85: Make Blazeheart Golem explosion *actually* scale with spellpower. 10(4 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afbbcc1b852d 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1947-ge2a70cf4d0: Prevent Injury Bond from being cast on firewood (regret-index) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2a70cf4d0c1 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1948-gd9bca62529: Gently nerf Gravitambourine 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9bca6252988 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1949-gbc9fe51480: Let monsters cast Soul Splinter 10(36 minutes ago, 5 files, 33+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc9fe5148069 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1950-gcbb58235ac: Let monsters cast Grave Claw 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbb58235ace1 02:13:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1951-g5e7d71ec3a: Let orc wizard apostles know Soul Splinter and Grave Claw. 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5e7d71ec3a92 03:32:33 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5208-geafff8c3b6 04:30:20 Frilled lizard still no frill after years virtually unplayable Kappa 05:00:56 New Makhleb much cooler but capstone being semi-random is bound to cause some frustration 05:30:18 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1951-g5e7d71e (34) 08:41:37 <08nicolae> tbf the whole game is semi-random, so, you just gotta kinda know what you're getting into when you go makhleb 08:42:01 <08nicolae> also from a design perspective i feel like the goal is that all the options should be Cool 10:53:22 New branch created: pull/3947 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3947 10:53:23 03CipHuK02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3947 * 0.32-a0-1952-g4c705b07fd: Add more flair to using Rising Flame on D:1 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c705b07fd8a 12:10:34 Mark of execution... 1/8 trigger chance on KILL + ultra low duration (even if you jump into the fray) make this have 0 effect unless you are steamrolling the opposition anyway... Definition of win-more and too impractical for serious consideration. It's a fun idea at least... 12:18:50 <06pleasingfungus> what on earth are these drive-by comments about? 12:21:28 <04dracoomega> I mean, it seems fairly clear to me what they were saying (though all the feedback about Mark of Execution from #dcss has been positive about its usefulness in practice) 12:22:13 <04dracoomega> The executioner buff last indefinitely, so long as you're attacking, and it's perfectly possible for it to trigger on the first kill in a long fight, providing significant value over the entire rest of it. Definitely doesn't need you to be steamrolling to start with. 12:22:29 <04dracoomega> Just 'can kill a thing without needing to run away right afterward' 12:23:17 <06pleasingfungus> just bemused by the repetition of 'complain and then vanish without waiting even 10min for a response' 12:23:31 <06pleasingfungus> feels like a nonoptimal communication strategy 12:23:32 <06pleasingfungus> but what do i know 😛 12:23:53 <04dracoomega> I suppose, yes! 13:48:30 <02Monkooky> possibly irc timeout is to blame? 14:00:40 no, they're definitely jumping right back out 14:39:07 <02Monkooky> an interesting strategy 15:34:35 03nlavsky02 07* 0.32-a0-1952-g3b7b6a97b3: fix: tweak colours of artefacts in item stacks 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b7b6a97b3a8 15:38:33 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-1951-g5e7d71ec3a (34) 15:51:43 03Implojin02 07* 0.32-a0-1953-gb43e308ab6: fix: tweak colours of evokers in item stacks 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b43e308ab6f2 16:40:51 03Implojin02 07* 0.32-a0-1954-g2b9147af3d: fix: Disallow zigfig use on the orb dais (Lightli) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b9147af3dc4 16:45:57 04Build failed for 08master @ 2b9147af 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/10189260824 16:47:20 ld: warning: ignoring file '/Users/runner/work/crawl/crawl/crawl-ref/source/terrain.o': found architecture 'arm64', required architecture 'x86_64' 16:47:24 macs… 17:08:15 <09gammafunk> geekosaur has fond memories of signing the MacOS binary 17:16:10 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1955-ge50eda5ae6: Refactor aux attack usability 10(23 minutes ago, 2 files, 85+ 71-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e50eda5ae684 17:16:10 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1956-gee1fe2baa0: Change how aux attack accuracy is displayed 10(12 minutes ago, 5 files, 68+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee1fe2baa06d 17:16:10 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1957-g31a074b6e7: Reword the names of a few aux attacks to look better in xv 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/31a074b6e7f7 17:16:10 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1958-gdcd205b14f: Make Blindness actually reduce player aux accuracy 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dcd205b14fe1 18:44:52 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1959-g75b3d6c479: Fix inverted logic in refactor aux attack checks. 10(15 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/75b3d6c47945 19:20:10 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1960-g1ee3b3fea3: Mark serpent form as having a tail. 10(22 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ee3b3fea314 20:19:15 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1961-g4455a2a023: Green tiles (pianoman523) 10(2 days ago, 20 files, 10+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4455a2a0237f 20:19:15 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1962-gf7326234eb: Vaults vaults batch (with extras) 10(6 minutes ago, 14 files, 954+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f7326234eb17 21:50:46 <|amethyst> btw, I have noticed a tendency in recent commits to refer to gods as "they". IMO, it would be better to still try to refer to gods with no pronouns at all. IMO, it's not just that the gods are genderless or gender-neutral, but also that the gods are big enough that any attempt at using anaphors is doomed to fail. 21:51:11 <|amethyst> But I'd be happy to be proven wrong 21:52:33 <04dracoomega> How do you propose to talk about anything at all without either a pronoun or just using their proper name every single time? 21:52:54 <|amethyst> I'd go for the latter 21:52:57 <04dracoomega> I am not attempting to claim they have some specific identity. It's just a generic term 21:53:17 <04dracoomega> That's sounds... incredibly ponderous to me 21:54:08 <|amethyst> Again, I'm not set on this, but I think that references to gods being ponderous is a feature, not a bug 21:57:16 <06regret-⸸nde※> Using no pronouns won't really avoid players from presuming any anyway, and making the descriptions any harder to read isn't great when people read them much less than they should. We've already made great strives recently on emphasizing god flavour with the various recent complexity-forward revamps, which covers plenty forward on this front. 21:57:22 <04dracoomega> In commit messages, though?? 21:57:49 <|amethyst> Oh, I don't care what happens in commit messages, just in-game 21:57:56 <06regret-⸸nde※> (I also think it's valuable to continue to normalize the neutrality of single they?) 21:58:17 <04dracoomega> I thought I have noticed a tendency in recent commits to refer to gods as "they" to mean 'in the commit messages themselves' 21:58:22 <|amethyst> I think singular "they" is awesome, don't get me wrong 21:58:26 <06regret-⸸nde※> ...Is there more than, like, one current use of any pronouns in any god descriptions? 21:58:57 <04dracoomega> I did search through gods.txt just now and found only a single use of one, I think? 21:59:09 <04dracoomega> It's possible there's things elsewhere 21:59:39 <|amethyst> maybe I have misread recent commits 21:59:57 <04dracoomega> Oh, wait, somehow it missed these 22:00:08 <04dracoomega> Not sure why. Gimme a sec. 22:00:12 <|amethyst> admittedly, I was looking at whole commits at a time, and not specifically the actual changes to descriptions 22:02:59 <02Monkooky> While there's maybe an argument for this wrt in game descriptions, doing this in commit messages seems like it's just cumbersome for devs and contributors 22:04:39 <02Monkooky> with no real benefit 22:05:25 <|amethyst> yeah, I don't want to complain about commit messages; and it does appear that I was mostly looking at commit messages rather than in-game text when I made my complaint, so I withdraw my objection 22:10:37 <|amethyst> Also, regret-⸸nde※, congratulations on defeating my IRC client's tab-completion :) 22:11:23 <|amethyst> I assume that it sees Unicode and just throws its hands up in defeat 22:11:57 <|amethyst> Don't ever stop doing what you do 22:14:39 <06pleasingfungus> lol 22:14:56 <06pleasingfungus> fwiw, though i’ve followed the no pronoun policy, it’s unclear to me that it’s helpful 22:15:26 <06pleasingfungus> it makes writing descriptions significantly harder, and it seems to have somewhere between zero and negative impact on the flavour players notice 22:16:33 <|amethyst> fair enough 22:17:12 <|amethyst> Using "they" is definitely better than avoiding writing descriptions 22:17:23 <06pleasingfungus> if we wanted referring to gods to be ponderous in a way players would notice, we could require using full name and title :p 22:17:41 <06pleasingfungus> (but… please no) 22:18:59 <|amethyst> "For Gozag Ym Sagoz the Greedy, both flesh and spirit are inferior to wealth..." 22:20:34 <06pleasingfungus> exactly 22:20:44 <06pleasingfungus> but especially for sentences that refer to a god twice :p 22:21:16 <|amethyst> :) 22:24:31 <04dracoomega> Well, I found a 'their' that definitely wasn't supposed to be there 😛 22:25:17 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1963-g2a28826f5c: Fix a future mutation indicator still showing on 'A' when it shouldn't 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a28826f5c89 22:25:17 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1964-g0da81c886d: Fix typo in god description 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0da81c886d7a 22:28:51 <02Monkooky> tbh this would be funny if it was for one god 22:35:34 <|amethyst> @Monkooky "TS1 has too much gender, please fix" 22:35:45 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1964-g0da81c886d (34) 22:36:01 <|amethyst> anyway, thank yall for listening to my deranged ramblings 22:45:50 <06dolorous_84348> Referring to things without pronouns has precedent, but the phrasing gets awkward. For example: https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2008-08-04 22:47:22 <04dracoomega> How kind of Lota to have a very short name 22:48:33 <06dolorous_84348> Indeed. If LOTA insisted on being referred to as Longshoreman Of The Apocalypse all the time, LOTA would not be so kind anymore. 22:49:43 <06dolorous_84348> The difference between "The Shining One is too large for your puny pronouns." or just "TSO is...". 22:59:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1964-g0da81c886d 23:33:46 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1964-g0da81c886d (34) 23:55:50 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1964-g0da81c886d