03:31:52 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5208-geafff8c3b6 05:22:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1552-g97836dd (34) 05:36:42 <09h​ellmonk> lmao 06:03:56 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1553-g811786a8ad: Add a few more glowing colour messages for Xom. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/811786a8ad2f 07:57:04 <12g​e0ff> I had a similar idea re: a background with challenging early game. A runaway thief: you stole an artefact, acq scroll, or one-of-a-kind ring from a wizard, but you almost got caught. The wizard gave you some temporary badmuts/stat drain/mhp drain, but you managed to escape into the Dungeon. 07:57:14 <12g​e0ff> So you start with a very good item (fun, infinite scumming possibilities) and some maluses, which are curable with XP (also fun). 08:03:33 <06d​olorous_84348> So temporary badmuts in the sense of the ones you get from wretched stars? 08:05:59 <12g​e0ff> yeah, all the starting bad things are supposed to be temporary 08:06:14 <06d​olorous_84348> Ah. 08:19:51 <08n​icolae> i was thinking regular badmuts which i suppose could end up being negated by sufficiently early mutation potions 08:30:44 <13q​wqwqwqwqwqwqw> to me personally starting with regular badmuts would seem sufficiently transient, but I'm still not sure it's a good idea 08:39:05 <08w​ormsofcan> everyone re-inventing hellcrawl backgrounds 08:40:30 <08w​ormsofcan> although I think I suggested a mut background once (just start with a curated selection of mutations) 10:07:10 <08n​icolae> it's like carcinization but for crawl 10:59:45 -!- auronandace is now known as Guest4785 15:13:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.32-a0-1554-g6b5e21af4e: Fix missing space (SallyRoses) 10(28 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b5e21af4ece 15:32:06 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1555-g456191073c: Use && instead of and. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/456191073c27 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1556-gc2cd7fecab: Replace Necrotise with Soul Splinter 10(4 days ago, 34 files, 147+ 86-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c2cd7fecab9b 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1557-g2685a3d210: Add Grave Claw (level 2 Necromancy spell) 10(3 days ago, 19 files, 105+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2685a3d2108a 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1558-g3d5deab1c5: Make necromancers start with a dagger 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3d5deab1c5e5 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1559-gc0b93f29f4: Buff / unbreak miasma cloud effects versus monsters 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0b93f29f480 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1560-gbfa4c909b4: Don't absolutely forbid monsters from stepping into miasma 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfa4c909b46c 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1561-g2c54b8fa63: Cigotuvi's Dreadful Rot -> Cigotuvi's Putrefaction (level 4 Necro/Air) 10(82 minutes ago, 25 files, 122+ 68-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c54b8fa63ee 15:35:23 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1562-gc9b62028b5: Fix rings of wizardry and amulets of regenMP having a stash tag of {buggy} 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9b62028b51e 15:36:11 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-1553-g811786a8ad (34) 15:40:57 04Build failed for 08master @ c9b62028 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9687693922 15:46:08 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1563-g6dbd6f5238: Fixup a renamed enum that got missed when squashing 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6dbd6f52388d 15:55:49 04Build failed for 08master @ 6dbd6f52 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9687780615 15:56:54 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1564-g5113baeebe: Give Sif Muna's Channel Energy back its success message 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5113baeebe80 15:56:54 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1565-ga3c6b23753: New Xom action: surround with toadstools / demonic plants 10(23 hours ago, 3 files, 74+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3c6b237536c 15:56:54 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1566-gc695c3f67a: Let Xom decorate with more than just altars 10(18 hours ago, 2 files, 51+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c695c3f67aac 15:56:54 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1567-gafaae9a287: Add Ambrosia to Xom's potion list 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afaae9a287db 15:56:54 03regret-index02 07* 0.32-a0-1568-g69d1a470dc: New Xom action: haste / slow / para _everything_, including you 10(10 minutes ago, 3 files, 117+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/69d1a470dc0b 16:01:13 04Build failed for 08master @ 69d1a470 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9687864774 16:06:34 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1569-gd6a4db0e28: Fix tag upgrade build 10(72 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d6a4db0e2844 16:06:34 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1570-gb2846a84f6: Fix Bestow Arms animation being visible out of LoS (regret-index) 10(52 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b2846a84f61d 16:09:37 04Build failed for 08master @ b2846a84 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9687948930 16:09:49 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1571-gcefdf76d2c: Fix naming of #ifdef'ed-out enum. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cefdf76d2c0c 16:09:49 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1572-g3947c7c5ea: Fix punctuation. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3947c7c5ea84 16:09:49 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1573-g3c3405656d: Fix spelling. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c3405656d57 16:20:17 04Build failed for 08master @ 3c340565 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9687981492 16:21:39 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1574-g3d6ac616a9: Reorder spells in Trismegistus Codex. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3d6ac616a9d4 20:34:59 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1575-g6009e8ebb8: Greatly boost the effectiveness of heal-from-kills at low piety 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6009e8ebb8f3 20:34:59 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1576-g602a2ca46c: Make Vehumet's 2nd gift be level 2-3 instead of 1-2 (elliptic) 10(76 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/602a2ca46c3e 20:34:59 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1577-g1ed0126d3b: Allow Vehumet range bonus to affect a few more spells 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ed0126d3b05 20:34:59 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1578-gf7cbc378ca: Allow Vehumet's range bonus to apply to the player's Spellforged Servitor 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 15+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f7cbc378ca82 20:50:57 <04d​racoomega> I am not sure what in the world this code is actually doing. Or rather, the comment is very obsolete, the code beneath doesn't seem to relate to what it says, and I am not sure what it accomplishes anyway. C++ // Allow monsters falling asleep while patrolling (can happen if // they're left alone for a long time) to be woken by this event. if (mon->friendly() && mon->is_patrolling() && 20:50:57 !mon->asleep()) { break; } 20:51:39 <06p​leasingfungus> ideal 20:52:21 <04d​racoomega> This... prevents ME_ALERT events from... doing anything to patrolling friendly monsters 20:52:34 <04d​racoomega> I am not sure how much ME_ALERT events matter for friendlies in the first place 20:53:21 <04d​racoomega> (Basically trying to determine if this does any secret useful thing before removing it for clarity's sake >.>) 20:53:46 <04d​racoomega> And should at least update the comment if it does 20:54:38 <04d​racoomega> Actually, maybe it would make guarding friendlies stop guarding, when it happens? 20:56:56 <04d​racoomega> Every time I have to dive into monster behavior code, I shake my fist in its general direction 20:57:20 <04d​racoomega> And continue to state how I would like to rip its guts out at some point (but probably never will >.>) 21:01:59 <08n​icolae> i saw the commit about xom making plants and toadstools. should xom also make piles of debris. "Xom throws out some trash." "Xom offers ten dollars for this oscillating fan." 21:02:32 <08n​icolae> second suggestion: xom creates transporter in and out within LOS 21:02:46 <04d​racoomega> Okay, that's kind of great 21:02:54 <06d​olorous_84348> Seconded. 21:07:38 <06r​egret-⸸nde※> I've got a reasonable amount more of Xom plans that I'm going to get around to first before going over and figuring out transporters work on the C++ side of things, but if anybody else wants to go for such, they can do so. 21:09:53 <06r​egret-⸸nde※> The current pile of debris tiles are more of "a wall somebody piledrivered and crystal-speared too hard" than "pile of scrap and junk", so I'm not too impressed by dumping down ceiling rubble jokes-wise (unless Draco's landslide plans come to fruition much later?...), but if we get more options of tiles for such I'd be fine with it. 21:12:52 <06d​olorous_84348> On a god-related note, there are currently some gods with starting penance messages in godspeak.txt that have no way to get penance: Fedhas, Okawaru, Pakellas, Qazlal, and Sif Muna. Aside from the odd case of Pakellas, whose text all seems to be intact, should the penance messages be left in for future cases or removed? 21:14:31 <06d​olorous_84348> As for Xom and piles of debris, maybe it could be more like "Xom installs some art.", since some could appreciate the aesthetics of piles of debris? 21:17:15 <04d​racoomega> The penance messages are fairly 'useless', but I'm not sure if all of those ever had a way to get penance in the first place. Like, has Qazlal ever had something the player could do to upset them? 21:19:49 <06d​olorous_84348> Not as far as I know; I'd have to check the wiki to make sure. Fedhas lost penance when god protection of allies came in, so that's recent; Okawaru lost penance when their no-allies conduct came in, since it replaced their no-attacking-allies conduct; Sif Muna doesn't seem to have had a way to get penance either, but I can check the wiki for them as well. 21:20:05 <04d​racoomega> (I guess I've always been sort of torn between 'remove since pointless/potentially misleading' and 'keep since it's harmless flavor if anyone reads the file') 21:20:17 <06d​olorous_84348> Same here, which is why I thought I'd ask. 21:20:35 <04d​racoomega> And I've just gone with the status quo, I suppose 😛 21:23:19 <06d​olorous_84348> Okay. It's just hard sometimes to know what needs to stay and what doesn't, since there's so much sometimes. 21:25:08 <04d​racoomega> Yeah, that's certainly true 21:25:36 <06d​olorous_84348> For the record, the wiki mentions nothing of Sif Muna penance, and I don't remember its being in any of the ancient versions I've played. Qazlal was more recently introduced, so the latter doesn't apply on my end, and the wiki mentions nothing of their penance either. 21:26:51 -!- Changesite1 is now known as Changesite 21:27:33 <06d​olorous_84348> (Harmless flavor for anyone reading the file could go a few ways. I remember an old DOS game with a data file that, if you tried to read it, stated, "If you're reading this, you're too damn curious!" I found a reference to it much later on the Cutting Room Floor website, so I wasn't misremembering.) 21:28:43 <04d​racoomega> Sounds like the right amount of curious, imo 21:28:59 <06d​olorous_84348> Indeed. 21:42:24 <06p​leasingfungus> sif muna penance was given for using book amnesia 21:42:36 <06p​leasingfungus> ie destroying a book to amnesia one of its spells 21:43:05 <04d​racoomega> Haha. I forgot that was ever a thing 21:43:17 <06p​leasingfungus> it was a good mechanic imo 21:43:28 <06p​leasingfungus> not good enough to justify keeping physical books around 21:43:29 <06p​leasingfungus> but good 21:43:42 <08n​icolae> new mechanic: god pennants. if you do something good they give you a lil flag 21:43:58 <06p​leasingfungus> surely this is t :p 21:44:00 <08n​icolae> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1255745424103440544/pundesign.png?ex=667e3f8f&is=667cee0f&hm=cc1a9056c4c11f7e04bff55c9e5e8c3d6e4f1142f785c5ad5d22a02c01415008& 21:44:09 <04d​racoomega> The part I miss most about physical books is Trog burning them 😛 21:44:34 <06p​leasingfungus> that was good too’ 21:45:28 <06r​egret-⸸nde※> Should make a vault with wall-to-wall single-spell burning books behind stone glass... 21:52:44 <06d​olorous_84348> Interesting. I'd forgotten about it until you mentioned it. 21:53:12 <06d​olorous_84348> Indeed. 21:55:17 <06d​olorous_84348> There was that god tapestries idea I put on the wiki page as to why Trog and Vehumet hate each other: Trog burned Vehumet's entire library of spellbooks, so Trog had to give up book-burning and Vehumet was reduced to putting spells directly in their worshippers' heads. 22:12:20 New branch created: pull/3888 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3888 22:12:20 03Isaac Clancy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3888 * 0.32-a0-1579-g567a5d8cc7: Don't waste a turn when summoning with no space 10(79 minutes ago, 9 files, 902+ 322-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/567a5d8cc7e5 22:19:51 03Isaac Clancy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3888 * 0.32-a0-1579-g5aa900c855: Don't waste a turn when summoning with no space 10(87 minutes ago, 9 files, 889+ 313-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5aa900c8557c 22:26:16 03Isaac Clancy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3888 * 0.32-a0-1579-g6d53b79c86: Don't waste a turn when summoning with no space 10(2 hours ago, 9 files, 890+ 314-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d53b79c86a3 22:31:37 03Isaac Clancy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3888 * 0.32-a0-1579-gc8f5b242dd: Don't waste a turn when summoning with no space 10(2 hours ago, 9 files, 889+ 313-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8f5b242dd97 22:35:28 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1578-gf7cbc378ca (34) 22:44:40 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1579-g8a0c661859: Make slept monsters unable to wake before the player's next turn 10(21 minutes ago, 6 files, 16+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a0c6618593e 22:44:40 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1580-gf798c56413: Give Dithmenos melee shadows better sleep stabs 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 15+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f798c5641361 22:44:40 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1581-gfdff619988: Don't let your shadow cast Shadow Puppet out of combat (Acrobat) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 30+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fdff619988f0 22:58:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1581-gfdff619988 23:32:35 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1581-gfdff619988 (34) 23:55:31 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1581-gfdff619988