01:21:55 New branch created: pull/3878 (4 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3878 01:21:57 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3878 * 0.32-a0-1509-g933db6ed01: change rockslime stats 10(51 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/933db6ed0115 01:21:57 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3878 * 0.32-a0-1510-g9494f17fad: halve acid blob will 10(50 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9494f17fad33 01:21:57 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3878 * 0.32-a0-1511-g8adb1dc9d2: give slime creatures acid immunity 10(49 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8adb1dc9d280 01:21:57 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3878 * 0.32-a0-1512-ge041365272: adjust azure jelly stats 10(39 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e04136527264 02:02:29 New branch created: pull/3879 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3879 02:02:30 03DracoOmega02 {aegolden} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3879 * 0.32-a0-1508-g0aa33ede02: Remove some unused arguments 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0aa33ede0221 02:02:30 03aegolden02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3879 * 0.32-a0-1509-gd4eebe7da3: Give TRJ human level intelligence. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 7601+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d4eebe7da3df 02:06:46 03aegolden02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3879 * 0.32-a0-1509-gfdd9ff8fd8: Give TRJ human level intelligence 10(83 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fdd9ff8fd850 02:09:59 03aegolden02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3879 * 0.32-a0-1509-g4ed0e32a8c: Give TRJ human level intelligence 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ed0e32a8c80 03:31:34 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5208-geafff8c3b6 05:31:51 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1508-g6630b05 (34) 06:35:01 croobank (L10 OpFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (D:9) 07:04:39 BadJoke (L15 CoGl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (D:15) 07:06:20 BadJoke (L15 CoGl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (D:15) 07:15:05 Xavori (L11 DjCK) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (D:8) 07:23:56 sneaky (L21 OpSh) ASSERT(valid_cursor_pos(pos.x, pos.y, region)) in 'libutil.cc' at line 404 failed. (invalid cursor position -30,9 in region 2, should be 7,9 in region 3) (Depths:2) 07:24:00 sneaky (L21 OpSh) ASSERT(valid_cursor_pos(pos.x, pos.y, region)) in 'libutil.cc' at line 404 failed. (invalid cursor position -30,9 in region 2, should be 7,9 in region 3) (Depths:2) 07:37:22 packetloss (L22 DgIE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Depths:3) 07:41:04 monsoonserge (L10 FoAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Bailey) 07:42:08 monsoonserge (L10 FoAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Bailey) 07:43:07 monsoonserge (L10 FoAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Bailey) 07:47:48 <04dracoomega> Oh by, what have I woken up to? 07:47:56 <04dracoomega> !crashlog 07:48:08 <04Cerebot> 28392. monsoonserge, XL10 FoAl, T:8723 (milestone): https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/monsoonserge/crash-monsoonserge-20240621-144306.txt 07:48:57 <04dracoomega> !crashlog BadJoke 07:48:59 <04Cerebot> 6. BadJoke, XL15 CoGl, T:20195 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/BadJoke/crash-BadJoke-20240621-140620.txt 07:54:58 sneaky (L21 OpSh) ASSERT(valid_cursor_pos(pos.x, pos.y, region)) in 'libutil.cc' at line 404 failed. (invalid cursor position -30,9 in region 2, should be 7,9 in region 3) (Depths:2) 07:55:10 sneaky (L21 OpSh) ASSERT(valid_cursor_pos(pos.x, pos.y, region)) in 'libutil.cc' at line 404 failed. (invalid cursor position -30,9 in region 2, should be 7,9 in region 3) (Depths:2) 07:55:22 sneaky (L21 OpSh) ASSERT(valid_cursor_pos(pos.x, pos.y, region)) in 'libutil.cc' at line 404 failed. (invalid cursor position -30,9 in region 2, should be 7,9 in region 3) (Depths:2) 08:03:08 Hgcwarrior (L18 CoBe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 08:04:04 Hgcwarrior (L18 CoBe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 08:09:55 <07zureal> interesting that the ranch check error is occuring on multiple servers 08:12:32 <04dracoomega> I've found and fixed it, by the way 08:13:19 <04dracoomega> (Was part of a new Gozag wrath effect mumra added, and the issue was trying to look at the properties of an item that was dropped, if it had been dropped into lava and destroyed by that point) 08:13:57 <04dracoomega> (I'll be pushing a handful of bugfixes for other things reported in #dcss in a short bit) 08:16:39 Gondikof (L19 MDCA) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Elf:2) 08:17:50 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:18:43 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:19:56 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:20:26 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:21:04 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:21:15 <04dracoomega> Turns out there's lots of lava in Geh 08:21:19 <04dracoomega> Who knew? 08:21:20 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:21:30 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:21:37 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:21:49 <04dracoomega> (Just testing webtiles compilation of something first, which is taking a bit) 08:21:53 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:22:14 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:22:53 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:23:06 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:23:40 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:25:43 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:27:45 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:28:33 tswn (L27 MDCj) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 08:33:37 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1509-g21e9c0a11a: Add missing status description for Sign of Ruin 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21e9c0a11a09 08:33:37 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1510-gde231d1551: Don't crash when dropping items into lava 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de231d1551cd 08:33:37 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1511-g0ea0d47ddd: Fix Dazzling Flash player tracer not working properly (dilly) 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ea0d47ddd02 08:50:46 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1512-gb304cf6f2a: Tweak wording of Ruin status description. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b304cf6f2a18 08:55:06 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1513-g9a3e478684: (Maybe) fix LoS range being semi-permanently reduced by Nightfall 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9a3e478684a5 10:03:49 <06mumra> Eek 😂 10:05:10 Is there a reason delays don't set you.turn_is_over in their finish() methods? Seems like it would be logical to me, and from looking at code in main.cc::_input, it looks like they were maybe intended to? Setting you.turn_is_over in finish() is a possible fix for an issue with coglin distortion unwield banishment, you see. 10:06:08 <04dracoomega> What issue is that? 10:06:39 <04dracoomega> (Also: I don't specifically know of a reason why they don't do that, though some timing things are a bit nebulous to me here) 10:06:42 Dazliare (L13 MfFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Lair:4) 10:07:16 Dazliare (L13 MfFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Lair:4) 10:14:33 Banishment only takes effect the turn after you unwield the weapon 10:15:47 <04dracoomega> Oh, ha 10:16:14 <04dracoomega> Hmm... would setting you.turn_is_over effectively make all delays take additional time? 10:20:53 Oh right handle_delay's finish section does a weird thing where it sets you.time_taken = 0 only if !you.turn_is_over 10:21:25 but that could just be if (!you.turn_is_over) { you.time_taken = 0; you.turn_is_over = true; } no? 10:22:38 there's another solution which is to move the world_reacts call in _input so that it's not only called if time was taken, it just seemed logical to me that once a delay finishes, you.turn_is_over should be true 10:22:45 eww formatting 10:23:37 <04dracoomega> I agree that it does seem logical. Just that something about timing code might also need to be adjusted so that things we don't want to change don't get changed. Probably. 10:23:51 <04dracoomega> (I've not looked very closely at this stuff myself) 10:25:01 Let's go with the second solution then - in general changing any of this code makes me a bit nervous :) 10:25:44 <04dracoomega> Yeah, I share that nervousness, but also nothing would ever improve if we weren't willing to risk unintended consequences 😛 10:27:15 there's always the big shiny revert button 😛 10:28:39 <04dracoomega> Side-eyeing some of the refactoring I wanted to do with killer_type and monster death code >.> 10:40:57 Khyper (L22 MDFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Depths:4) 10:43:18 Khyper (L22 MDFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Depths:4) 11:23:56 wonkwonk (L17 DsFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 11:25:59 wonkwonk (L17 DsFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 11:28:36 wonkwonk (L17 DsFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 11:29:11 wonkwonk (L17 DsFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 11:31:24 wonkwonk (L17 DsFE) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 12:09:20 New branch created: pull/3880 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3880 12:09:21 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3880 * 0.32-a0-1484-g63a4ef9c9f: Fix banishment from distortion unwield being delayed for coglins 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63a4ef9c9fcc 12:09:21 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3880 * 0.32-a0-1485-g217f1f90c2: Fix coglins not receiving unwield prompts when switching weapons 10(69 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/217f1f90c272 12:09:21 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3880 * 0.32-a0-1486-gf29193bace: Fix delay interrupts sometimes prompting twice 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f29193bace1d 12:31:14 modargo (L17 TrWn) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Lair:5) 13:11:08 Biggs (L12 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (D:11) 13:22:02 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1514-g2ed6c15cf2: Prevent Polar Vortex from affecting things beyond the player's sight range 10(62 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ed6c15cf2f6 13:22:02 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1515-g8499d7ef60: Prevent casting Starburst with LoS 0 (elliptic) 10(61 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8499d7ef60e2 13:22:02 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1516-gcb7df17468: Don't crash on reusing a shadow mimic with a non-ranged weapon 10(59 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb7df174685e 13:22:02 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1517-g2ec1b1993f: Fix all statuses coloring SH blue in webtiles 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ec1b1993f66 13:22:02 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1518-g02cc6ff11a: Remove a couple vestiges of armataur curl status 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/02cc6ff11ae1 13:22:02 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1519-ga7e19f97df: Cut an extremely niche and mostly-pointless monster behavior 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 55-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a7e19f97dfe8 13:54:24 promet (L6 TrMo) ASSERT(missile.base_type == OBJ_MISSILES) in 'throw.cc' at line 856 failed. (D:5) 13:54:42 !crash 13:54:50 28427. Biggs, XL12 KoBr, T:10360 (milestone): https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/Biggs/crash-Biggs-20240621-201107.txt 13:55:08 !crash promet 13:55:08 2. promet, XL9 TrBe, T:8667 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/promet/crash-promet-20181026-001406.txt 13:55:12 ... 13:55:12 <02Monkooky> did this contribute to nest entrance often becoming a spider orgy 13:55:28 no, that's mostly noise iirc 13:55:31 <02Monkooky> or is that just 'there's a lot of spiders in a quiet branch' 13:59:00 <04dracoomega> For spiders, it was only the entrance to spider that could make things patrol: ie: Lair side 13:59:25 <04dracoomega> But the thing is: if we want entrance vault monsters to be patrolling, we can just say so in the vault 13:59:44 <04dracoomega> (As it was, this was only a 1-in-4 chance if they physically stepped on the entrance while wandering) 14:03:27 <06regret-⸸nde※> Spider's entrance being extremely aggressive mostly has to do with being a singular branch entrance where 11/21 different monster choices are given 2-4 random starting-tier spiders. 14:03:41 <06regret-⸸nde※> (Sometimes 2-6.) 14:05:20 <06dolorous_84348> I remember the entrance-patrolling code; I thought it'd been removed ages ago, in fact. 14:20:59 GeeHouse (L24 FoAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Depths:2) 14:25:14 <06pleasingfungus> noooo 14:25:29 <06pleasingfungus> our extremely niche and almost entirely pointless behavior!!!! 14:25:32 <06pleasingfungus> aiiiii 14:28:02 * geekosaur wonders how much of crawlcode that describes 14:29:54 <06pleasingfungus> perhaps best not to ask. 14:37:04 <04dracoomega> Really, I'd like to remove mons_is_branch_native entirely, since it's obscure and out of date in various ways. It is currently used in only exactly two places: -Human intelligence branch natives can't fall down shafts (mostly) -All branch natives get longer pathfinding distance The first is kind of whatever (in fact, I think mostly it's unclear why monsters sometimes don't fall down shafts when it seems they ought to, especially 14:37:04 since branch natives aren't comprehensive. For instance, merfolk can't fall down shafts in Shoals, but fauns and satyrs can) and likely can just be cut without any consequence. The second might actually matter, especially since Sentinel's Mark multiplies this base tracking range to determine whether things can find you and removing it with no replacement would reduce that range for all humans in Vaults by 15 tiles. I could just fold the extra range 14:37:05 into all creatures, but this technically gives a longer tracking range to an even greater number of things (and earlier things), but it's unclear how much this actually would affect anything in practice. So I've decided to play some actual games with pathfinding debug statements on to see if I notice any relevance for 'thing which can't pathfind now, but could if this change was made'. The answer so far is mostly 'no', but this is an absurd thing to 14:37:05 see in response to blastmotes going off: 14:37:07 <04dracoomega> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1253826058608709722/image.png?ex=66774403&is=6675f283&hm=051bb413d5a6f4265fa92c3bf6366924935aecd0ddb2a6e49cd4f84b01271ae0& 14:38:05 <06pleasingfungus> they're gonna getcha. 14:38:14 <06pleasingfungus> (all in favor of removing nativism) 14:41:06 <04dracoomega> I like the implication that the plants would perform pathfinding towards me, if only I were closer 14:42:34 MrSquiggles (L26 OpCA) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Zot:4) 15:23:27 Biggs (L18 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 15:25:30 Biggs (L18 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 15:27:39 Biggs (L18 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 15:27:59 Biggs (L18 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 15:28:29 Biggs (L18 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 15:33:49 Biggs (L18 KoBr) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 15:38:01 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-1519-ga7e19f97df (34) 16:18:10 piedemon (L20 FoAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 16:24:43 piedemon (L20 FoAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 16:28:49 purplemustard (L12 DsAl) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Volcano) 16:55:36 TerrariaFan (L27 MiFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:3) 16:58:23 TerrariaFan (L27 MiFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:5) 16:59:07 TerrariaFan (L27 MiFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:5) 17:38:04 New branch created: pull/3882 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3882 17:38:04 03dolorous02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3882 * 0.32-a0-1520-g41c1b5316f: Reflavour Erolcha. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 37+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/41c1b5316f04 17:40:05 <06dolorous_84348> So I finally put together the Erolcha reflavoring I mentioned a few days ago (minus the redefined-ankus wielding, since that's a lot of work, and I'm not certain how much gain there would be from it). The only changes are to her description and dialogue. If the plan to make Erolcha an oni is still a thing, maybe this could still be useful with some tweaking, although I don't know whether her ogre-speak is appropriate for oni. 17:49:33 <04dracoomega> The dialogue seems fine for a unique in isolation (certainly her current dialogue isn't much of anything), but I'm not sure how much it feels like it evokes someone whose most iconic thing is banishing people to the Abyss. (Also, yes, I assume oni don't speak like that; at least part of the the reason for making player ogres into oni was to get away from the 'dumb brute' stereotype.) Really, the singular reason I hadn't done the 17:49:34 plan I said a while ago already was not having tiles for it. I could recolor her current one, of course, but that felt a little lacking 18:06:46 wormsofcant does tiles sometimes 18:06:57 and sastreii but I haven't seen them in a while 18:10:10 (and, sadly, getting sandbagged by life is a thing) 18:12:02 that said, there's a long istory of recoloring as placeholders 🙂 18:12:05 <06dolorous_84348> Okay. I wasn't sure how much to focus on the Abyss aspect, but I can think of some more lines involving it. 18:14:09 <06dolorous_84348> And it's a relief on the oni speech; it's tricky to do "dumb" speech correctly. (One reason the goblin sharper, while definitely informal for contrast with the Zin angel, doesn't speak like Ijyb.) 18:37:50 03dolorous02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3882 * 0.32-a0-1520-g136e0dab11: Reflavour Erolcha. 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 46+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/136e0dab112d 18:38:03 <06dolorous_84348> Updated now, with a few more Abyss-related lines, her dumb speech updated, and her species changed to oni. 18:38:26 <06dolorous_84348> (The tile is still unchanged, since I couldn't do much more than recolor it either.) 19:21:00 StonerKitturk (L13 GnMo) ASSERT(missile.base_type == OBJ_MISSILES) in 'throw.cc' at line 856 failed. (D:11) 19:23:00 !crashlog StonerKitturk 19:23:01 3. StonerKitturk, XL13 GnMo, T:16177 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/StonerKitturk/crash-StonerKitturk-20240622-022059.txt 19:24:09 <04dracoomega> @mumra There's been at least one person reporting fully-opaque screen flashes in webtiles (using OTR) that I assume is related to the change you made to how flashes there work, but it's been inconsistent even for them. Sometimes transparent as normal, and then opaque for other periods. (See here for an example https://i.gyazo.com/5ec5d33917dc7fb657de5bc070f03ea0.gif) 19:24:42 <04dracoomega> I've not been able to reproduce it myself; I don't know if you might have any idea what the issue might be. 20:23:18 03NormalPerson702 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.32-a0-1520-g9ce1d27a0f: Don't leak invisible monsters when casting Gell's Gavotte (#3836) 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 6+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ce1d27a0fcc 20:23:18 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1521-gd165621694: Fix another invisible monster leak with Gavotte 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1656216943c 20:47:52 03NormalPerson702 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.32-a0-1522-g2bc2bbeccd: Allow using black as a menu_colour for Webtiles inventory UI 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2bc2bbeccd02 20:47:52 03NormalPerson702 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.32-a0-1523-gc13c8a0a3b: Use redefinable yellow for poison in hp-bar (mumra) 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c13c8a0a3b2d 20:50:39 <04dracoomega> You know, I really thought I'd elaborated on the original Erolcha plan here, but it has been pointed out to me that evidently I only did this (repeatedly) in the other channel. 20:51:32 StonerKitturk (L14 GnMo) ASSERT(missile.base_type == OBJ_MISSILES) in 'throw.cc' at line 856 failed. (Gauntlet) 20:52:04 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 20:54:06 <04dracoomega> The basic concept was that Erolcha was a torturer/collector of souls for hell, but also very drunk and 'banishment' was casting the player down to the wrong place. (Was even planning to toss in some slurred lines about being cast down into Naraka or something.) Paired with an alternate timeline version of her where she is a more reliable warden of the damned, with a spellset involving Marytr's Knell and summoning waves of laughing 20:54:06 skulls from all around. 20:54:27 <04dracoomega> (Never quite figured out the name for the other version either, but...) 20:55:14 <04dracoomega> (Even thought about giving cast messages to Erolcha fireball involving the old 'take a swig of alcohol and breath flame with it' thing) 20:56:19 <04dracoomega> (Again, I really would have done this already, but that kind of needs tiles more than I can really provide on my own) 20:56:29 <04dracoomega> To sell the whole thing properly 20:58:36 <04dracoomega> (Like, that's been kicking around since the end of 0.31) 20:59:02 <06regret-⸸nde※> I blame this on the nature of having an official and an unofficial dev discord. 21:09:08 <06dolorous_84348> Okay; good concept. Maybe what I've come up with could be used for some other unique, then. 21:10:29 <06dolorous_84348> Replied to the wrong part of the block, but you get the idea. 21:10:34 <06pleasingfungus> but which is which..? 21:10:47 <06dolorous_84348> That's what I'd like to know too. 21:15:37 03Aliscans02 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.32-a0-1524-gb5a8b8454b: Mark transporter destinations as known on entering a fully_mapped level 10(7 weeks ago, 2 files, 13+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5a8b8454bac 21:17:19 <04dracoomega> I do try to talk about a lot of the larger scope stuff here, even if it was discussed a bunch over there. But lots of smaller things might not be. (And it's not like "What to do about Erolcha" was a hot topic in general :P) 21:18:14 <06dolorous_84348> Yes, you'd hinted at things here, but there weren't many details. I was just thinking about the list of monsters that needed better dialogue, and Erolcha was one case where my muse was working. 21:18:27 <04dracoomega> But like, if any qualified tile artists want to get me tiles for a drunken oni torturer and a higher-ranking oni jailor, I promise I'll get them working and into the game post-haste 😛 21:18:42 <06dolorous_84348> Good luck with that 🙂 21:20:21 <06dolorous_84348> As for what to name alternate future Erolcha, is there any general pattern that got used for the other cases? Maggie/Margery, Pargi/Parghit, etc.? 21:23:24 <06dolorous_84348> Or does it have to start with the same letter? If I had to make something up, Zaralcha sounds similar, but the different starting letter might be an issue. 21:24:24 <04dracoomega> I don't know if we have 'rules' exactly. For some of them, because they have real names that actually exist, there are known shortened or alternate forms, but I don't think Erolcha is based off anything, so there's no obvious atested way to do anything with it 21:25:01 <06dolorous_84348> I wondered. 21:36:38 gameguard (L27 DsRe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:1) 21:36:49 gameguard (L27 DsRe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:1) 21:37:24 gameguard (L27 DsRe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:1) 21:39:38 gameguard (L27 DsRe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:1) 22:10:34 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:12:39 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:12:48 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:14:48 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:15:38 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:15:48 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:16:02 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:16:07 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:25:06 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:25:14 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:25:56 coined (L27 MDFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Geh:7) 22:35:28 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1524-gb5a8b8454b (34) 22:57:53 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1524-gb5a8b8454b 23:12:40 fartyboi (L19 FoFi) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 2000) (Snake:4) 23:17:03 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1524-gb5a8b8454b (34) 23:55:18 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1524-gb5a8b8454b