00:32:23 <NormalPerson7> Another thing that used to bug me about the darkness of old Webtiles magenta: it meant all consumables under the "dangerous" tag were jarringly dark on the relevant inventory screens
00:33:02 <NormalPerson7> I have rcfile settings that change most of them to lightmagenta for this reason
00:33:18 <NormalPerson7> So I'm glad it's better now
00:34:06 <NormalPerson7> I wouldn't complain about more text colours though... my rcfile uses all of them (except black, black is useless obviously)
03:33:26 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5208-geafff8c3b6
05:22:16 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1339-g925b980 (34)
07:09:46 <NotCheibriados> 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-1340-g5c500c4b6e: Make demons summoned by obsidian axe always friendly (Ge0ff) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5c500c4b6e87
08:22:35 <NotCheibriados> 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-1341-g5039c0303e: Simplify armour acquirement 10(24 minutes ago, 2 files, 33+ 146-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5039c0303eb7
08:26:53 <NotCheibriados> 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-1342-gac80d7c31b: Fix typo in tower shield acq weight 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ac80d7c31b21
08:42:56 <NotCheibriados> 03nicolae02 07* 0.32-a0-1343-g181dc37c9d: Add some sinuous, squamous decor vaults to the Snake Pit 10(47 seconds ago, 1 file, 669+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/181dc37c9d39
08:44:11 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> there we go. enjoy
08:56:56 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> hurray!
11:41:52 <NotCheibriados> 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-1344-gf6fde8ad6d: Fix items in starting inventory not being marked as seen 10(51 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6fde8ad6d9f
11:41:52 <NotCheibriados> 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-1345-gfe1d291595: Simplify weapon acquirement 10(33 minutes ago, 2 files, 55+ 95-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe1d29159586
11:50:36 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ fe1d2915 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9421681435
11:53:39 <NotCheibriados> 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-1346-gb780b6b422: Unbrace 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b780b6b422ed
14:58:21 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07[dith_experimental] * 0.32-a0-1351-gc1f8345d88: Some refactoring and fixes for Aphotic Marionette 10(18 minutes ago, 14 files, 30+ 33-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c1f8345d8802
14:58:21 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07[dith_experimental] * 0.32-a0-1352-ge83f3c385d: Make Primordial Nightfall give a stealth bonus while active 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e83f3c385d88
14:58:21 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07[dith_experimental] * 0.32-a0-1353-g3264b8abec: Don't let monsters perform reach attack from out of sight 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3264b8abec22
15:08:49 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08dith_experimental @ 3264b8ab 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/9423577901
15:10:14 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> Going to guess that's some tracer change that breaks in arena or something. I'll look into it.
15:31:59 <Discord|> <12a​sciiphilia> What is the command 'crawl-inotify-dglwhere'? In the case of games run with dgamelaunch, the real-time lobby update does not work in the webtiles lobby (it appears when the page is completely refreshed). Is this script related to that?
15:36:13 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-1346-gb780b6b422 (34)
15:38:46 <Discord|> <12a​sciiphilia> I heard before that, due to storage issues, trunk versions are periodically deleted when operating a public server. It seems that the remove-trunks.sh in dgamelaunch-config performs this task. This command allows you to manually check the list and delete versions one by one. Is there a way to delete all versions except the latest one?
15:40:05 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07[dith_experimental] * 0.32-a0-1354-g836f881d99: Fix a misplaced bracket 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/836f881d992b
15:40:05 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07[dith_experimental] * 0.32-a0-1355-g15b0384547: Fix a few switch statements that were missing ATT_MARIONETTE 10(51 seconds ago, 3 files, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15b0384547ac
17:26:35 <Lantell> Bnni (L27 FoFi) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Elf:3)
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1347-g1cf930e433: Fix Yred always saying they were 'Noncommittal' no matter your piety 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1cf930e43356
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1348-geb34fb9520: Fix being unable to use Bind Soul on monsters without attacks 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb34fb952031
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1349-g49f9abe96c: Preserve the auras of bound souls 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 19+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/49f9abe96cf2
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1350-ga2d40b9c78: Buff Undying Armouries a little 10(21 minutes ago, 3 files, 16+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2d40b9c7819
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1351-g9f51f148f8: Let hoarfrost cannons be affected by LRD 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f51f148f806
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1352-ge1e3299b55: Remove hellfire mortars upon leaving a level 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1e3299b55cd
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1353-g7842008b98: Don't claim hellfire mortars 'flop about on dry land' (elliptic) 10(18 minutes ago, 3 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7842008b983b
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1354-gecdbb5f6cc: Tweak AF_VAMPIRIC message (Namsan) 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ecdbb5f6cc24
18:55:03 <NotCheibriados> 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-1355-g7c0229b0b9: Make blocks of ice (and hoarfrost cannons) amphibious 10(62 seconds ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c0229b0b9fd
19:05:48 <NotCheibriados> 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-1356-g6e78a6c96c: Fix changelog error 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e78a6c96ce4
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22:08:48 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> @mumra If we wanted to let people edit their text color in webtiles via, say, an .rc setting, is there any 'easy' way to edit/override the contents of a .css file that way? I feel I really don't know the first thing about a sane process there.
22:08:53 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> Or anyone else with relevant know-how
22:09:31 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> I have not written a line of web code in my life. I am not qualified ^^;
22:13:20 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Yeah you can just insert a <style> block in-page to override the css file
22:13:31 <Discord|> <06m​umra> It's just the order in which the styles are included
22:14:56 <Discord|> <06m​umra> So as long as the css file is included in <head> block, and then maybe at the start of the <body> you generate  <style> .some-class {   color: #12cd56; } </style>   That style would take precedence
22:15:09 <Discord|> <06m​umra> However, it'd be even more efficient to use CSS vars
22:15:22 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Then you don't even need the style block you can just go and update the var directly
22:15:24 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> All of the base colors are currently defined in one block like this css #game .fg0 { color: #000000; } /* black */ #game .fg1 { color: #005afa; } /* blue */ #game .fg2 { color: #4e9a06; } /* green */
22:16:23 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> So I guess just generate a redefinition of such inside a style block when the .rc file is loaded and just... append that to every generated html file?
22:17:36 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> (I mean, I've gotten the impression that the entire webtiles system is build on a questionable code basis, but in terms of the 'relatively easiest thing to do without rewriting stuff' (which I'm not qualified to do))
22:18:45 <Discord|> <06m​umra> So if you want to make this use css vars instead you rewrite the above block to  css :root {   --color-fg0: #000000;   --color-fg1: #005afa;   --color-fg2: #4e9a06; } #game .fg0 { color: --color-fg0; } /* black */ #game .fg1 { color: --color-fg1; } /* blue */ #game .fg2 { color: --color-fg2; } /* green */   And now when ever you load the .rc file you can just do this in javascript  js const root = document.querySelector(':root');
22:18:45 <Discord|> root.style.setProperty('--color-fg1', userColor);
22:19:11 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Then you don't have to mess about with writing <style> blocks, removing them from the page if something changes, etc etc
22:20:33 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> Oh, as easy as that?
22:20:38 <Discord|> <06m​umra> So this is probably a fairly easy rewrite (but i don't know how it might play with older verisons)
22:21:07 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Yeah i mean the whole css/js stack has changed a lot over the years and most stuff is really easy now with 3rd party libraries
22:21:42 <Discord|> <06m​umra> when webtiles was written everyone still used jquery because the browsers were so different you sort of had to do that just to normalise things but you don't even need to now as all the browsers follow the same standards nearly perfectly
22:22:04 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Sorry the above was meant to say WITHOUT 3rd party libraries
22:22:55 <Discord|> <06m​umra> i think css vars are the obvious solution for this, then you can update one thing and apply it to any css selectors that use the same colour
22:23:23 <Discord|> <06m​umra> rather than having to override probably multiple things that all referenced the same colour
22:24:45 <Discord|> <06m​umra> (i just updated that code snippet sorry, forgot to wrap the usage of the vars in var(...))
22:25:07 <Discord|> <06m​umra> https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_variables_overriding.asp https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_variables_javascript.asp
22:26:22 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> What do you mean by 'how it might play with older versions', by the way? Older versions of what?
22:26:39 <Discord|> <06m​umra> older versions of webtiles
22:27:35 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> But I'm not sure how code that only exists in a newer version affects an older version at all? I feel I must be missing something.
22:27:48 <Discord|> <06m​umra> i just mean the colors wouldn't override the older version
22:27:50 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> Oh, well, sure
22:28:16 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> I mean, when one adds an option to a game, surely one doesn't expect it to work on versions before it was added? ^^;
22:29:37 <Discord|> <06m​umra> sure but with just a <style> override it might be able to
22:30:00 <Discord|> <06m​umra> but yeah that doesn't seem like an issue 🙂
22:30:25 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> This actually sounds like something I can take a stab at in the near future, then
22:30:33 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> To my own surprise, really ^^;
22:30:39 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> Thanks a bunch for the advice
22:31:49 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> (Someone in #dcss was unhappy with one of the color changes, and it really seems like a useful sort of UI option to exist in general)
22:32:31 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Yeah. Nice to be able to use the full 16m colour palette as well
22:34:28 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Also with css vars that dodgy function you mentioned before becomes rather trivial to fix js     function determine_colours()     {         [...]         const root = document.querySelector(':root');         health = root.style.getProperty('--color-healthy');         hp_spend = root.style.getProperty('--color-hp-spend');         magic = root.style.getProperty('--color-magic');   Or however the vars are set up
22:35:25 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1356-g6e78a6c96c (34)
22:40:22 <Discord|> <06m​umra> (Also worth knowing, performance-wise CSS vars are lightning fast and while performance was probably not a concern either way on this, if anyone did worry about it or thought they wanted to cache the lookups or anything, it's definitely not a concern and it's an extremely fast way of doing this. Spent quite a bit of time researching this at one point on a project where CSS performance was critical and i can confidently say it's definitely
22:40:23 <Discord|> crazy fast by a factor of like 10x better than applying style overrides)
22:42:24 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> I'd be very surprised if either mattered here, but sure
22:42:42 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Yep exactly, just nice to know
22:44:30 <Discord|> <06m​umra> Oh one thing worth pointing out: i use const in the above because i use it by habit these days in js. There is const and let now (we never use var). But const is not the same as C++ const, it doesn't mean the referenced thing can't be mutated, it just means the reference itself can't change. And nearly everything is a reference in js except strings and numbers
22:47:33 <Discord|> <06m​umra> But you may want to carry on just using var to be consistent with legacy code. I'll rewrite all the vars to the appropriate const or let when i upgrade everything, this is done automatically by eslint anyway
22:47:36 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> That sure is not what I would expect const to mean there, no >.>
22:55:01 <Discord|> <06m​umra> we can have readonly objects by calling Object.freeze(targetObject) but it's still not the same guarantees as if one of the properties is a non-frozen object you could still modify properties of that object (but it's this kind of reason why TypeScript is so popular now, with that you can actually make something fully readonly with as const but it's still only pretending to be const but at least you get a build time error if you try
22:55:01 <Discord|> to do something funny with it)
22:55:53 <Discord|> <06m​umra> javascript is a very silly language really 😂
22:56:24 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> I have never really used it, but I have seen scary 'logical equivalence' charts tossed around as jokes ^^;
22:57:34 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1356-g6e78a6c96c
23:04:46 <Discord|> <06m​umra> But it's a language you can get stuff done very fast in, as long as you're using the modern tools and safety rails (which unfortunately webtiles has neither of)
23:08:26 <Discord|> <04d​racoomega> Oh, even without having used it, I am fully prepared to think it has fewer things I dislike about it as viscerally as C++ 😛
23:14:42 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1356-g6e78a6c96c (34)
23:54:30 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-1356-g6e78a6c96c