00:35:20 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.32-a0-841-g4648e6c457 (34) 00:35:20 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.32-a0-841-g4648e6c457 (34) 00:36:19 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5186-gbdc6987af4 00:36:19 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5186-gbdc6987af4 00:54:28 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-841-g4648e6c457 03:58:01 New branch created: pull/3732 (5 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3732 03:58:02 03sdynet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3732 * 0.32-a0-842-gf713c279cb: Qaz's dust cloud give damage 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 13+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f713c279cb99 03:58:02 03sdynet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3732 * 0.32-a0-843-g926eff5bd0: Increased Qaz's cloud generation speed 10(42 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/926eff5bd0c2 03:58:02 03sdynet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3732 * 0.32-a0-844-g50b946cf91: Relax criteria to allow Qaz's clouds to be generated in complex terrain 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50b946cf9121 03:58:02 03sdynet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3732 * 0.32-a0-845-g0fb932fc47: Turn rough dust into a sandstorm(ragingrage, PleasingFungus) 10(28 minutes ago, 4 files, 8+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0fb932fc4755 03:58:02 03sdynet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3732 * 0.32-a0-846-g56d2ae3eaf: Reduce the cost of Upheaval 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/56d2ae3eafda 04:30:26 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5186-gbdc6987af4 05:07:31 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-841-g4648e6c (34) 09:24:31 New branch created: pull/3734 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3734 09:24:31 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3734 * 0.32-a0-842-g76c4fb48af: remove some meat 10(52 seconds ago, 1 file, 21+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/76c4fb48af0b 09:36:12 03Monkooky02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.32-a0-842-gbbb8fdbe59: remove some meat 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 21+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbb8fdbe59cb 11:01:42 <02Monkooky> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3726 11:01:47 <02Monkooky> is this intended behaviour? 11:03:04 <02Monkooky> rather, is the presence of both the 'a thick layer of gritty mud' and the liquefaction description simultaneously desired? 11:14:37 -!- perryprog_ is now known as perryprog 11:15:49 <04dracoomega> This is something that was true of Leda's Unmaking, by the way 11:15:58 <04dracoomega> I am not really sure why it displays so buggily 11:16:25 <04dracoomega> (I did not spend a lot of time looking into it, though, I admit) 11:20:39 <02Monkooky> So what happens is leda's displays more like a cloud 11:21:12 <02Monkooky> where it shows the floor underneath the cloud, then the description for the cloud 11:22:19 <02Monkooky> (both are in the 'extra terrain features') 11:24:43 <04dracoomega> Of course, this operates by using a temp terrain change to change the ground to mud 11:25:49 <04dracoomega> (Like, probably the mud's description should incorporate the mechnical properties and it shouldn't call up the Leda's description as a second thing?) 11:26:40 <02Monkooky> yeah that's my feeling 11:27:03 <02Monkooky> can do that real fast I'm already looking in the right spot 11:31:56 <02Monkooky> ok I'm gonna make this a bit bigger and refactor leda's a bit 11:32:26 <02Monkooky> since right now it has special handling for water/lava that sets a flag for it, but that's never used 11:32:46 <04dracoomega> Sounds sensible to me 11:33:40 <04dracoomega> I'll probably be able to look at it later today. I think my translocations work here will probably be pushable before too much longer. 11:48:59 <12ge0ff> re: . It should be [[liquefied]]: is an alias and it can only replace the whole description. On the other hand, [[foo]] allows extending descriptions. 11:49:08 <12ge0ff> Also, not sure why mud has two descriptions - for "Some mud" and for "Liquefied ground", as it needs only the first one. 11:50:21 one could argue leda's isn't quite the same thing as mundane mud 11:51:15 <02Monkooky> hmmm 11:51:45 <12ge0ff> with [[liquefid]] you'll get Some mud. A thick layer of gritty mud. The ground here is liquefied, making movement slow and causing any attempts to attack in melee to sometimes fail. Liquefied ground. The ground here is liquefied, making movement slow and causing any attempts to attack in melee to sometimes fail. 11:51:53 <12ge0ff> and the 2nd part is unnecessary 11:52:56 <02Monkooky> Well, I've fixed up the liquefaction double display 11:53:19 <02Monkooky> so just adding the [[liquefied]] tag properly should do then 12:14:20 New branch created: pull/3735 (4 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3735 12:14:21 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3735 * 0.32-a0-843-g9d428b00d6: Fix grey drac breath display 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9d428b00d680 12:14:21 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3735 * 0.32-a0-844-g643a118807: SImplify liquefaction 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/643a1188076f 12:14:21 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3735 * 0.32-a0-845-gb885cb58f0: Don't display leda's text for mud 10(22 minutes ago, 4 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b885cb58f0d1 12:14:21 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3735 * 0.32-a0-846-g45d9ee2e36: Make mud show liquiefied description 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/45d9ee2e36f2 12:29:58 hmm before I modify crawl I probably should build it first huh... 12:30:16 03Monkooky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3735 * 0.32-a0-847-gbcebb8a2b9: Fix checkwhite 10(14 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcebb8a2b9cd 13:41:34 <02Monkooky> probably closable issues: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3373 re: oneshottiness of meatsprint; this is definitely a working as intended https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3721 Seems like a nonissue; also wearable can be used to describe state even if it's not specifically wearable to you https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3503 This is consistant with other body slot muts and I believe is by intent; there's a point the 13:41:35 gameplay with Mf is bad but I think that's emblematic of Mf issues not bugs or hauberk issues https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3237 Almost certainly fixed with the constriction rewrite in 9adf0d1 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3292 nearly guaranteed to be a save upgrade issue, and one of hopefully no more relevance https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3243 seems unlikely to be an issue fixable on our end? The following two may have been 13:41:35 solved by fc9fac7; I'll see about reproing but it sounds like they were difficult to reproduce regardless https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3341 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/3164 13:48:41 <12ge0ff> yeah, 3237 is fixed 13:51:09 <12ge0ff> > The zombie hands constrict the orc wizard! > The orc wizard casts a spell. > _The orc wizard flickers and vanishes for a moment. > The zombie hands constrict the orc wizard. <--- no "something" 13:52:12 "for a moment" means he's visibl;e again immediately 13:52:31 oh, sorry, parsed that backwards 15:14:25 <12ge0ff> after poking at the constriction rewrite a bit more, it looks like 3237 was fixed even earlier than commit 9adf0d1 (but i'm too lazy to bisect this thing further) 16:35:47 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-842-gbbb8fdbe59 (34) 16:59:15 <04dracoomega> So, as I try to do some cleanup on this, I find myself looking at the part of the Gell's PR that added a display for collision damage. The way it was worded was far too long for the damage column in the spell list for IMB (since that has its normal damage plus collision), but I'm not sure how to shorten it sufficiently. Even reducing it from the original ' + 2dX / slam' to '+(2dX)' doesn't fit and there's not a lot more room to do 16:59:16 anything with it. If it is shortened to 2d19/2d11 (the current numbers at max power) it technically fits, but it feels very unclear that the second number means impact damage (which often won't happen at all) 17:14:56 <04dracoomega> Maybe the real solution is to be able to show an abbreviated form in the spell list, but the whole thing if you examine the spell itself. Like just '2d19+' in the column, but '2d19 + 2d11/collision' in the full description 17:36:35 <06pleasingfungus> monkooky: closed most of these, thanks! 🙂 17:37:09 <06pleasingfungus> draco: that seems reasonable to me. don't think it's critical to show both at all times 19:22:44 -!- MakMorn_ is now known as MakMorn 19:46:06 <06pleasingfungus> wait, is it gavotte or gavitamourine? 19:46:25 03SentientSupper02 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.32-a0-843-g4c2c1c8b4a: Describe collision damage for spells 10(13 days ago, 4 files, 24+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c2c1c8b4a50 19:46:25 03SentientSupper02 {DracoOmega} 07* 0.32-a0-844-g9d3c0f8a62: Describe spellpower effects on IMB and Gell's 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9d3c0f8a6259 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-845-g583ece5c49: Slightly refactor ENCH_BOUND handling 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/583ece5c4935 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-846-ge6577ed3b2: Refactor a couple spell animations 10(2 days ago, 4 files, 25+ 39-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6577ed3b2ba 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-847-g8d86919e2e: Maxwell's Portable Piledriver (new level 4 Translocations) 10(7 days ago, 12 files, 195+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8d86919e2e75 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-848-gd8d983544c: Move Manifold Assault to level 7, attempt to buff accordingly 10(6 days ago, 5 files, 12+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8d983544ca4 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-849-g90288d38ae: Gell's Gavotte (new level 6 Translocations spell) 10(29 hours ago, 14 files, 292+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90288d38aea8 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-850-ge52afbec85: Gell's Gravitas -> Gell's Gavitambourine 10(4 hours ago, 28 files, 188+ 146-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e52afbec8579 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-851-g24355c9986: Improve IMB collision damage description 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 11+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24355c9986c8 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-852-gb106c4ab2c: Make Piledriver display damage in a more maintainable way 10(49 minutes ago, 3 files, 10+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b106c4ab2cc0 19:46:25 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-853-ge0dfd15e89: Shuffle new spells into books 10(35 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0dfd15e89ab 19:46:26 <06pleasingfungus> oh 19:46:33 <06pleasingfungus> ...that's going to confuse people 19:46:33 <06pleasingfungus> like me! 19:46:35 <06pleasingfungus> hype 19:47:15 <06pleasingfungus> oh man, folks are going to have Opinions about a 50% reduction in phials of floods 19:47:39 <06pleasingfungus> > once the pool of evokers expands just a little bit more (which I'm still > hoping to do in 0.32), I'd like to remove these '1 of 2' pools from evokers > and just pull 5 at random from the entire list. i should implement the torpedo... and some other ideas 19:57:51 <04dracoomega> I briefly considered putting it in the 'area' evoker pool, but it seemed a shape to prevent it from spawning in the same game as tremorstones, since they ought to synergize very well 19:58:18 <04dracoomega> But as I said there, I think a more freeform pool is probably the better overall thing to work to 20:22:30 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-854-g4c6cd3ffef: Tweak wording. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c6cd3ffef57 20:22:30 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-855-gadc223dc64: Fix spelling. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/adc223dc64c3 20:28:53 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.32-a0-856-g05aacc5516: Fix typo (ragingrage) 10(62 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05aacc5516cf 20:39:33 -!- The topic of #crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | https://github.com/crawl/crawl | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/, temporarily http://crawl.akrasiac.org/logs/cheibriados/ | People with +v have commit access, devs on bridged discord as well | General Crawl-related chat to #crawl | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please 20:39:34 -!- The topic of #crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! 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