01:06:01 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.32-a0-699-g1ee5eff69a (34) 01:06:01 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.32-a0-699-g1ee5eff69a (34) 01:07:55 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 01:07:56 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 02:08:03 New branch created: pull/3655 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3655 02:08:03 03SentientSupper02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3655 * 0.32-a0-700-ga219503641: Don't display monster to hit with 100x the chance 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2195036411c 02:56:45 gameguard (L24 DsWn) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Abyss:3) 03:50:24 -!- ert2 is now known as ert 04:31:44 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 04:35:28 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3650 * 0.32-a0-700-g7b3fda4214: Add SH change to equipment descriptions 10(24 minutes ago, 3 files, 65+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7b3fda4214aa 04:35:28 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3650 * 0.32-a0-701-g9c30c06a86: Standardise AC/EV/SH descriptions 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 75+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c30c06a86cc 05:12:31 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3650 * 0.32-a0-700-g7a42a8a3d3: Add SH preview and standardise AC/EV/SH previews in descriptions 10(61 minutes ago, 3 files, 112+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a42a8a3d3fe 05:30:54 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-699-g1ee5eff (34) 06:09:37 03Monkooky02 {dolorous} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-700-g6e9cbb6d47: Add Spellforged Talisman 10(7 months ago, 13 files, 103+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e9cbb6d47bf 06:09:37 03Monkooky02 {dolorous} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-701-gece27bd9eb: Adjustments for Spellforged form 10(7 months ago, 3 files, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ece27bd9eb1d 06:09:37 03Monkooky02 {dolorous} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-702-gbf9f579f2e: Tweak Spellforged Form 10(7 months ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bf9f579f2e6b 06:09:37 03Monkooky02 {dolorous} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-703-ge5fd342f38: Adjust Spellforged Infuse, AC 10(7 months ago, 3 files, 7+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e5fd342f38f9 06:09:37 03Monkooky02 {dolorous} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-704-g21b8813ff2: remove base UC from Spellforged Form 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21b8813ff220 06:09:37 03dolorous02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-705-gc4cb48190f: Fix typo. 10(10 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4cb48190f42 06:09:37 03dolorous02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-706-gaf5aefaaf1: Allow acquirement of spellforged talismans. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af5aefaaf1a8 06:12:49 03dolorous02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3619 * 0.32-a0-706-ga6b218e276: Allow acquirement of spellforged talismans. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6b218e276cc 06:29:56 <02M​onkooky> oh ho! 07:12:52 <09g​ammafunk> look what you've done 07:30:31 <06d​olorous_84348> I realized I hadn't updated it to account for that (and then momentarily forgot that flux is listed as tier 2, but is technically 1.5, so spellforged should be 3 under that system). 07:31:32 <06d​olorous_84348> Because the weighting will be even more complex if tiers use floating point numbers. 08:33:41 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-700-g9bfe03fe0b: Decrease precision in display of AC/EV changes on gear swaps 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9bfe03fe0b61 08:45:05 04Build failed for 08master @ 9bfe03fe 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/8267378104 09:34:07 New branch created: pull/3657 (75 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 09:34:20 03PleasingFungus02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-1-g120dbe4ab5: Make Stuck block self-shafting (acrobat) 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/120dbe4ab5c6 09:34:20 03PleasingFungus02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-2-g02819fbbbe: Replace Vhi's dust cloud with electricity 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/02819fbbbed6 09:34:20 03PleasingFungus02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-3-g2fd7c7d5d5: Display plasma beam damage in monster 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2fd7c7d5d56e 09:34:20 03PleasingFungus02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-4-g09bf782b1a: Fix: monster plasma beam damage (dilly) 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/09bf782b1a63 09:34:20 03PleasingFungus02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-5-g8e6c1be481: Show 2x for monster plasma beam 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e6c1be48130 09:34:20 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-6-gad0e9d6a2d: fix: don't disable autoclear for rc errors 10(10 months ago, 4 files, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad0e9d6a2de7 09:34:20 03PleasingFungus02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-7-gcb88a99046: Finalish changelog update for 0.30 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 66+ 33-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb88a990468d 09:34:20 03nicolae02 {advil} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-8-g910ebb2dd4: Change the changelog 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/910ebb2dd42c 09:34:20 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-9-g561828ffed: docs: sync changelogs 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/561828ffede3 09:34:20 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3657 * 0.30-b1-10-ga01eaba1cd: docs: various changelog tweaks 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 21+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a01eaba1cd2d 09:34:20 ... and 65 more commits 09:49:48 if fractious numbers are needed why not used fixed point numbers? 1 they aren't floating point, 2 there arithmetic is simple 3 precision and range are adjustable with int64_t or int32_t and you can't get get weird fp issues 09:49:48 the down side however is that many people aren't use to such beasts and +-INF +-NAN are a bit complicated to represent and dealing with overflow and underflow division and multiplication can be interesting. 09:49:48 floating point has it's own pile of frustrations as well, +-NAN +-INF are equally challenging to deal with, underflow overflow zeroth arithmetic can be WTH (IE N+=A and N-=A don't change N because A is relatively speak 0 by comparison to N). 10:01:02 <05i​coson> dcss does already use ad hoc fixed point in various cases, including ac/ev/sh calcs (if that's what the comment is about) 10:01:51 <05i​coson> I once tried to convert them to more systematic fixed point and semi-gave up because when making any wholesale changes to that code it is extremely hard to verify that you aren't messing something up 10:02:25 <05i​coson> elliptic's commit is just about the display I think 10:09:01 just multiply all numbers by 10 instead of having decimals 10:17:06 <13q​wqwqwqwqwqwqw> there are things that could be done instead of computing floats and then printing them, yes, but afaik floats aren't causing any troubles? 10:17:18 <13q​wqwqwqwqwqwqw> I don't really understand the comment 10:21:08 regarding d​olorous_ 84348 Because the weighting will be even more complex if tiers use floating point numbers. 10:26:36 I think that also applies with fixed point; the real intent is "user-facing stuff should mostly be small integers" 11:03:03 <13q​wqwqwqwqwqwqw> it's not actually user-facing, just a table used for acquirement weighting for talismans 11:03:34 <13q​wqwqwqwqwqwqw> (and there's nothing wrong with it as it is) 11:32:42 <13q​wqwqwqwqwqwqw> (I think if I were choosing tier numbers now I would actually call beast = 0, flux = 1, serpent/blade/maw = 2, ... - the 1.5 thing is really just because we inserted it in between something we already called 1 and something we already called 2) 11:51:58 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-701-g6677626c59: Fix display of monster chance of hitting a player with positive SH 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6677626c5906 12:03:06 04Build failed for 08master @ 6677626c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/8270040067 12:13:45 <09g​ammafunk> that PR about ios is interesting, wonder what that's about 12:14:02 <09g​ammafunk> also the last commit tries to add support for account deletion to webtiles, apparently 13:14:53 Airwolf (L22 MDDe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 234: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Depths:2) 13:19:21 sadcabbage404 (L3 DECj) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 13:19:21 Dragor (L16 GrEE) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Lair:1) 13:19:22 robertstho (L7 MfIE) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:4) 13:19:27 DAC (L11 DjFE) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:9) 13:51:06 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3650 * 0.32-a0-702-g7a336a892e: Add SH preview and standardise AC/EV/SH previews in descriptions 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 112+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a336a892ed7 15:10:46 Not sure if IRC -> Discord pings works, but anyway 15:11:10 @dolorous_84348, it looks like there's a bug caused by recent umbra changes. The player only gets 9x9 umbra when at max Dith piety, instead of having a full-LOS umbra. 15:15:01 (or it's probably related to Yred commits, since 9x9 is the max umbra size when worshipping Yred) 15:23:54 Aha, found it: it 's an unintentional side effect of 18fcfa04efe7, the Revamp Yredelemnul commit. Particularly, the change to player::umbra_radius(). 15:25:19 if you can't get them here, you could comment on the commit 15:36:35 <06p​leasingfungus> the ping does work, btw! 15:37:28 sadly you just missed them 15:39:06 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-702-gc29ba85809: Add better placeholder tiles for foul shadow mut. 10(13 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c29ba8580940 15:41:52 <06d​olorous_84348> I'm here. 15:42:47 but Ge0ff had left about a minute earlier 15:43:01 <06d​olorous_84348> Are umbras under Yred and umbras under Dith supposed to act the same? 15:45:39 <06d​olorous_84348> Because the player::umbra_radius() code assumes they do. 15:45:58 <06p​leasingfungus> no 15:46:16 <06p​leasingfungus> dith umbra is supposed to go to full LoS, yred isn't 15:46:32 <06p​leasingfungus> (well, it's supposed to go to full LoS at max piety) 15:47:50 <06d​olorous_84348> Hmmm. The code only looks at the umbra passive for both gods, and since it uses the same code for them both, they effectively both have the same umbra. 15:47:58 04Build failed for 08master @ c29ba858 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/8272510636 15:48:43 <06d​olorous_84348> Unless there should be one umbra passive for Yred, and another for Dith? 15:49:14 <06d​olorous_84348> Or should there still be one passive, but it should vary depending on god? 15:50:24 <06d​olorous_84348> Probably the latter. 15:50:27 <06p​leasingfungus> you pick 🙂 15:50:35 <06p​leasingfungus> don't think it matters too much which 15:50:56 <06d​olorous_84348> It'd be easier to do the latter, since adding another passive would be a lot of code 🙂 15:52:45 <06d​olorous_84348> Although it'd be a bit more hackish. 15:54:28 <02M​onkooky> Is dith likely to keep umbra? 15:55:31 <02M​onkooky> Feel like with Yred having it in a much more interesting implementation, and dith direly needing reworks, it's probably not part of dith's kit long term 15:56:03 <06d​olorous_84348> Even though Dith is god of shadows, having two gods with umbra does seem a bit weird. 16:10:51 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-703-g0a1840c5b1: Restore separate umbra radii for Yred and Dith. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a1840c5b16d 16:11:35 <06d​olorous_84348> Done via the latter method. 16:18:18 <06p​leasingfungus> thanks! 🙂 16:21:40 04Build failed for 08master @ 0a1840c5 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/8272800593 16:31:52 <06d​olorous_84348> No problem. 16:35:19 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-702-gc29ba85809 (34) 16:59:32 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-704-g0ab5258196: Remove steel elves (ge0ff) 10(72 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ab5258196ee 17:08:54 04Build failed for 08master @ 0ab52581 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/8273224592 18:38:55 03SentientSupper02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3653 * 0.32-a0-687-g46292306f8: Fix a segfault 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46292306f812 20:39:47 -!- The topic of #crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | https://github.com/crawl/crawl | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/, temporarily http://crawl.akrasiac.org/logs/cheibriados/ | People with +v have commit access, devs on bridged discord as well | General Crawl-related chat to #crawl | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please 20:39:47 -!- The topic of #crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??online for instructions, ??lg / !lg for play stats | PM Sequell for long queries | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV game replays: ??footv for instructions | #crawl-dev for dev discussion, #crawl-offtopic for offtopic 20:47:28 what does it take to continue an ongoing flame wave through lua? crawl.do_commands({"CMD_WAIT"}) doesn't work, nor does crawl.process_keys(".") 20:52:31 the turn advances but the flame wave ends silently 21:48:16 03dolorous02 07* 0.32-a0-705-g60f233581c: Make foul shadow mut give a stealth bonus. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60f233581c76 21:57:44 04Build failed for 08master @ 60f23358 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/8275610914 22:50:48 New branch created: pull/3658 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3658 22:50:48 03SentientSupper02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3658 * 0.32-a0-705-g4e8ce1d490: Improve Gell's Gravitas some more 10(88 seconds ago, 5 files, 47+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e8ce1d49081 23:13:44 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.32-a0-705-g60f233581c (34) 23:35:35 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-705-g60f233581c (34) 23:59:16 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-705-g60f233581c