00:23:54 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.32-a0-30-gefbe487952 (34) 00:54:40 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-30-gefbe487952 01:12:12 Stable (0.31) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.31.0-0-g2b8753d7e0 01:32:57 Stable (0.30) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30.2-0-g7821555f0a 01:56:23 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.32-a0-30-gefbe487952 (34) 01:56:23 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.32-a0-30-gefbe487952 (34) 01:58:15 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 01:58:16 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 03:42:52 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-30-gefbe487952 (34) 04:28:45 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 05:20:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.32-a0-30-gefbe487 (34) 07:31:51 -!- Loggers_VIII24 is now known as Loggers_VIII 10:21:50 banning quicksilver self-targetting does not make sense and is a bad change 13:12:38 <06pleasingfungus> noisytoot: criticism usually works better with justifications attached 🙂 informational content is quite low otherwise 13:19:25 Juni (L27 SpGl) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 696: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Zig:10) 14:00:09 it deals self-damage (so it doesn't make potions of cancellation useless) and it's weird that it can't be self-targeted but the other beam wands can 14:14:56 03nlavsky02 07* 0.32-a0-31-ge66fa4eb29: task: 0.31 trunk tournament reminder 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e66fa4eb29bf 14:37:19 <06pleasingfungus> noisytoot: iirc we either have or planned to block self targeting other wands 14:39:37 <06pleasingfungus> and no one said it made cancel useless 🙂 14:46:43 <04dracoomega> I actually thought we already made you unable to self-zap /poly, but apparently not 14:50:26 <04dracoomega> (I'd say that banning all self-zap is completely reasonable if not for it actually being sort of reasonable to aim /roots at yourself) 15:00:48 roots can probably be different since it doesn't affect the player at all anyway, only real corner case is iceblast and it's difficult to think of a situation where it's good to hit yourself with a half physical damage wand to get enemies on both sides... it seems reasonable enough to just ban self-targeting all wands and not count roots as a 15:00:49 self-target 15:00:59 as for /quicksilver, self-targeting was just drastically more powerful than the other wands, especially after /light stopped being able to reliably stab orbs of fire et al 15:05:05 <04dracoomega> I mean, I'm willing to accept no self-zap roots as a casualty of making things consistent here 15:05:10 <04dracoomega> Even if it's a bit unfortunate 15:13:11 sure, I wouldn't be *opposed* to such a change, just saying that it doesn't actually feel inconsistent for roots to be the one wand that can target your space since it's already the only wand that does that without directly self-targeting the user themself 15:14:16 <06pleasingfungus> elliptic’s pitch was to allow self targeting for iceblast and roots 15:17:53 that too could work, as a consistent paradigm of "can self-target with AoE under the assumption it could be used to catch more enemies in the blast" 15:36:34 03elliptic02 07* 0.32-a0-32-g978bd804de: Fix found gems shattering not being hidden by default (without more_gem_info) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/978bd804decf 15:39:43 03elliptic02 07[stone_soup-0.31] * 0.31.0-1-g2c135a008e: Fix found gems shattering not being hidden by default (without more_gem_info) 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c135a008e6d 15:43:14 https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.31/ mentions meteorans even though they no longer exist 15:51:04 <06pleasingfungus> thanks! fyi @gammafunk 16:26:08 <09gammafunk> thanks, will change 16:26:14 <09gammafunk> did we get any new uniques this version? 16:26:17 <09gammafunk> dang we did didn't we 16:27:59 <09gammafunk> just norris and jeremiah? 16:35:09 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.32-a0-32-g978bd804de (34) 16:49:57 shapeshifters start in beast form but the beast talisman doesn't show as (active) initially 18:29:26 did I start this game too early to count for the tournament? 18:29:28 https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/grothendieck/morgue-grothendieck-20240119-225050.txt 18:29:30 I waited until the tournament page said the tournament started a few seconds ago and then started this game on CUE 18:38:04 <09gammafunk> !lg grothendieck cue won mibe 18:38:05 <04Cerebot> 3. grothendieck the Conqueror (L26 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2024-01-19 22:50:50, with 1699951 points after 65682 turns and 2:53:45. 18:38:14 <09gammafunk> !lm grothendieck cue won mibe begin 18:38:15 <04Cerebot> 3. [2024-01-19 19:56:18] grothendieck the Chopper (L1 MiBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 18:38:32 <09gammafunk> sadly it seems you were 4 minutes early 18:38:36 huh... 18:38:37 <09gammafunk> well almost 4 minutes 18:38:52 <09gammafunk> there might have been something weird going on with cue 18:38:56 <06pleasingfungus> but congrats on the win! 18:39:11 thanks :) 18:39:20 grothendieckdcss: You might want to show that game to TZer0 on the cue discord 18:39:31 I'm not sure if there's a good explanation for why 18:39:49 I have been thinking about possible explanations 18:39:59 does the tournament page use my local time or server time for its countdown? 18:40:12 maybe I didn't have ntp set up right on my computer 18:40:36 <09gammafunk> it uses UTC for the countdown display, which happens through your browser 18:41:01 <09gammafunk> and it uses UTC otherwise when actually processing games, but it can only go by what cue's crawl processes report 18:41:05 so that's the client's time? 18:41:09 <09gammafunk> so that would come from cue's server time 18:41:11 <09gammafunk> no 18:41:31 <09gammafunk> it's possibly your browser was off in its display on the tournament page itself 18:41:39 <09gammafunk> because of time issues on your system 18:41:43 yes 18:42:08 well good to know for next time 18:42:24 <09gammafunk> yeah, I suppose the correct answer to your question is just "yes, it uses your local system's clock" 18:43:47 I'm not too upset, I'd have only competed casually anyway 18:43:55 and the win is still a good win 20:18:28 thanks 22:02:17 Stable (0.31) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31.0-1-g2c135a008e 23:02:01 03gammafunk02 07* 0.32-a0-33-g74fbe469d6: feat: A spell icon for Martyr's Knell (Sastreii) 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/74fbe469d656 23:02:01 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.31] * 0.31.0-2-g5a2aebc5c2: feat: A spell icon for Martyr's Knell (Sastreii) 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a2aebc5c2ff 23:22:04 https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney/blob/0b824d77bc37ccea4273055edc30db7317e69bd6/outline.py#L421C1-L421C28 Does this say you need to win with exactly 3 gems (not, say, 4 or 5) to get the Graceful/Usk 2 banner? Lightli brought it up not getting the banner in discord despite the T page showing a won game with 5 gems (4 intact) 23:27:13 <09gammafunk> ...doh 23:35:01 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-33-g74fbe469d6 (34) 23:56:28 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.32-a0-33-g74fbe469d6