00:07:24 04Build failed for 08a-monster-named-yaml @ aae8a92a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7394345633 00:15:24 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1570-g93c622d222 (34) 00:17:16 <04dracoomega> The makefile has always terrified me whenever I've looked at it 00:24:39 <06pleasingfungus> same 00:54:33 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1570-g93c622d222 01:34:55 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 04:22:27 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 05:09:32 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1570-g93c622d (34) 07:05:11 -!- Loggers_VIIIj is now known as Loggers_VIII 08:31:22 <03semi_tonal> should that bazaar change check for Oka worshippers? obviously they're not likely to be actual threats but it still seems not great (design- and flavour-wise) to add hostiles into what's meant to be a safe portal 08:32:41 <03semi_tonal> likewise sac love under Ru although that'd need to check for the mutation itself directly 09:50:40 03Implojin02 07* 0.31-a0-1571-g7be0f4f3a5: Improve Serpent's Lash rampage behavior (sdynet) 10(4 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7be0f4f3a5a3 10:56:40 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1571-g7be0f4f3a5 (34) 13:01:46 <06regret-⸸nde※> ...let me just say, the fact even things a form of neutral are immediately foes of okawaru is completely ridiculous :P 13:11:18 <03semi_tonal> it seems like it makes the most sense to me, since neutral creatures mostly shouldn't exist anyway (outside of things like pacification/corruption where they're safely restricted to that specific god) 13:12:09 <06regret-⸸nde※> would you deny the zot hot tub after all this time 13:12:44 <06regret-⸸nde※> (or the perpetually-doomed ely altar quokka) 13:14:57 <03semi_tonal> the rare special case can get away with it! they just do cause issues generally (i do think the ely quokka is probably not a great usage on the whole, zot tub is of course very zot appropriate in its silliness) 13:18:57 <06regret-⸸nde※> (currently looking deep into what I think is actually a long-standing bug where even friendly monsters, much less neutral or good_neutral monsters, placed via monspec give xp / piety even though otherwise https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#L2278 should be blocking off the first case) 13:59:19 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1572-g1b1bae75ae: Deal with rude bazaar customers plus other vault monster attitude weirdness 10(25 seconds ago, 2 files, 23+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1b1bae75ae55 14:05:48 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1572-g1b1bae75ae (34) 14:16:22 -!- Loggers_VIII is now known as aandeg 14:16:42 -!- aandeg is now known as Loggers_VIII 14:17:35 -!- Loggers_VIII is now known as aandeg 14:17:54 -!- aandeg is now known as Loggers_VIII 15:29:11 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {regret-index} 07* 0.31-a0-1573-g39cc6bdce3: a couple more ziggurat pillar changes (#3402) 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 29+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39cc6bdce301 15:29:11 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1574-g5526595cd0: Remove a testing weight for D:15 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5526595cd002 15:36:10 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1574-g5526595cd0 (34) 16:25:56 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31-a0-1574-g5526595cd0 (34) 17:07:02 <04dracoomega> Does anyone else think it's a little weird (and potentially misleading) that we still print monster's current level of damage after "foo completely resists.", moderately implying that they did still take damage from the beam somehow? 17:08:36 <06pleasingfungus> don't feel strongly about this. i think we also print their current health when you hit and do no damage, right? 17:09:00 <06pleasingfungus> yeah, or even when you miss 17:09:05 <06pleasingfungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1192258363258568854/image.png?ex=65a86c20&is=6595f720&hm=afe45ee4caba27dd5f195a29d90aa08b7fbe6e7de6400bb96e5524cc14343387& 17:10:17 <06pleasingfungus> so printing monster health when you fail to damage them with a beam seems consistent with that 17:10:52 <04dracoomega> Even when you miss, huh? 17:11:26 <04dracoomega> I wonder if my brain glosses over that so much that I didn't even remember (...but I was wondering if I had coded the damage type wrong on this thing I was just testing and somehow injured a thing I should not have anyway >.>) 17:12:25 imo it helps you keep track with multiple opponents (on console at least, which has limited space for opponent status) 17:12:49 not that you usually want to be in that position, but it happens 17:13:03 <06regret-⸸nde※> I'd have to wonder if, contrariwise, we should be leaning towards not displaying such useless information to deal with such large message density on a more generalized level 17:13:21 <06regret-⸸nde※> maybe another rc setting? 17:32:28 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1575-g1bbaa075f8: Mildly reorganize orc.des and crypt.des 10(79 minutes ago, 2 files, 1062+ 1048-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1bbaa075f8aa 17:32:28 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1576-ga3383bade6: Add some of nicolae-'s Crypt & Orc vaults from PRs #3325 & #3326 10(65 seconds ago, 2 files, 785+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3383bade604 17:50:45 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1576-ga3383bade6 (34) 18:03:35 <06pleasingfungus> what crawl needs is more rcfile options 18:03:38 <06pleasingfungus> and a good five-cent cigar 18:06:51 <08wormsofcan> probably because monsters can regen 18:19:36 <03implojin> i'd tend to agree with this, generally, it would probably make the message log more useful if it were either less spammy or if it had a simple rcfile verbosity setting available to reduce the noise (i gather it's already possible to do complicated things with message channel options but i doubt players are mostly touching that) 18:33:01 <05icoson> I'm on vacation until 1/8 so I'm probably not going to be able to contribute much to this 18:33:42 <06pleasingfungus> ah, sorry for the ping, then 🙂 18:33:44 <06pleasingfungus> have fun! 19:27:48 <08nicolae> thank you @regret-⸸nde※ 21:44:49 <06pleasingfungus> @sastreii hope you’re well! per index, two tile requests for whenever you’re in the mood: - barachi monster (dummy) - oni player tiles (like ogre but cooler) cheers! 🙂 21:47:18 <06regret-⸸nde※> we're also missing an oni dummy monster, for the record :P 21:48:07 <06regret-⸸nde※> (the oni player tiles are a little silly in being technicolour, but I'm not sure there's enough room to really make them be noticeably too much different?) 21:48:32 <04dracoomega> Yeah, I'm not convinced there'd be a meaningful difference in how small the paperdolls have to be 21:48:44 <04dracoomega> And with stuff piled on top of them, at that 21:56:42 <06pleasingfungus> ah, i retract, then 🙂