00:04:32 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1469-gd420192249 (34) 00:30:55 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1469-gd420192249 (34) 01:55:46 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 04:23:15 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 05:30:26 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1469-gd420192 (34) 06:50:29 New branch created: pull/3433 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3433 06:50:29 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3433 * 0.31-a0-1470-g02cfbb532d: Update Armataur manual description. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/02cfbb532d46 09:41:15 <06pleasingfungus> @regret-⸸nde※ yum, peanut brittle! 🙂 09:59:38 <03semi_tonal> i love linesprint but i don't know that i'd put it at the top of the list as the first one to try, it sort of feels like the payoff to the setup of some of the earlier sprints to some extent. 10 rune challenge is sort of the one i'd recommend as the "standard" sprint - i wonder if it'd be possible to put a 2-sentence summary on the map selection screen similar to the species/background descriptions, or something 09:59:59 <03semi_tonal> (i know there's descriptions on ? but people won't read those) 10:08:58 standard> MEATSPRINT 12:38:16 -!- kiedtl is now known as cot 12:56:55 New branch created: pull/3434 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3434 12:56:55 03CipHuK02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3434 * 0.31-a0-1470-gc43d623175: Fix trove.spell_skills logic for trove.des 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c43d6231755f 12:56:55 03CipHuK02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3434 * 0.31-a0-1471-gf947c22bb1: Fix docs: rename skill Summoning -> Summonings 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f947c22bb19a 13:19:21 hey, was googling around and I saw this: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/DCSS-Mods which interested me. Did anything ever come of it? Is this something ya'll are still interested in? 13:32:24 <05sastreii> helloo finished this set of walls+floor+stuff for depths only! now you're allowed to make cool vaults with them😝 13:32:27 <05sastreii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1190029502210912387/Schermata_2023-12-28_alle_21.24.20.png?ex=65a05057&is=658ddb57&hm=1a4bac28b050fb6a5f06141c0215a459bbbd62f77bacb73c9a6d49c3bc1bd5dc& 13:32:27 <05sastreii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1190029502408036563/depths_unholy_cathedral_set.zip?ex=65a05057&is=658ddb57&hm=6ca1acf5c14c2f0cd7c094565425256dcbb234c08c4aea46e44604606ad49710& 13:32:37 <06regret-⸸nde※> oooooo 13:32:39 <06regret-⸸nde※> nice 13:33:29 <05sastreii> in the future i want to do sets like this to make floors more unique with some dazzling personality 13:38:13 <06pleasingfungus> sastreii: wonderful, thank you very much! nice idea putting the little brazier in the alcove to make it look less like a door. 13:39:07 <05sastreii> ty! yes, gamma pointed out that problem, so i solved it 🙂 13:39:24 <06pleasingfungus> MizMahem: I don't think anything came of it, no. It's an interesting idea, but I expect it'd be a tremendous amount of work with uncertain benefits. 13:41:33 @pleasingfungus would contributions around this area be well received? It would be an interesting project to take on, but not if I'm trying to push a rope uphill, so to speak. 13:42:07 <06pleasingfungus> I doubt stoat soup or bcrawl would try to turn themselves into mods of mainline crawl at this point, so benefits would only come from some hypothetical new variant which wanted to make changes to mainline, but not ones that were so complex that they needed to fork... 13:42:38 <06pleasingfungus> i don't think it's something we'd oppose, but it'd take a lot of review time as well, so I suspect changes might languish in the review queue for quite a long time. 13:42:49 <06pleasingfungus> @ebering might have his own opinions on all this. 🙂 13:44:26 <06regret-⸸nde※> I'd wonder if the main popularity of mods would actually be what mods tend to be used for on steam, of just graphic & name swaps 13:44:32 <06regret-⸸nde※> infinite player species... 13:44:53 <06pleasingfungus> ??crawl players[godiva 13:44:55 <04Cerebot> I don't have a page labeled crawl players[godiva in my learndb. 13:44:58 <06pleasingfungus> hrm 13:45:17 <06pleasingfungus> actually i'll go with a different entry 13:45:20 <06pleasingfungus> ??crawl confessions[1 13:45:21 <04Cerebot> crawl confessions[1/5]: I'll admit, after a couple games I went into the source code and made an overpowered griffon race for myself. Somewhat because it was hard, but mostly because griffons. 13:45:47 <06pleasingfungus> ([3] also relevant, but perhaps too rude) 13:47:49 <06regret-⸸nde※> some selection of people getting their elves, dwarves, halflings, and centaurs back 13:47:57 I discussed it a bit with ebering at the time but to be honest, I don't feel a great need for it - most of the changes listed are either trivial (ogre M&F apt) or effectively are just a different language to program in, a language which requires someone else to have set up all the requisite hooks. The main advantage would seem to be from the point of view of a smogasbord of small mods you can pick 13:48:03 and choose from, but does anyone want to do that? (Maybe they do, IDK) 13:48:14 <06regret-⸸nde※> (...admittedly I don't know what the last one is based off of at this point) 13:48:25 <06regret-⸸nde※> (maybe still armataur) 13:48:57 [3] isn't _very_ spicy 13:51:29 <12ebering> I might have had opinions once 13:51:58 <06regret-⸸nde※> some of the actual game changes in the link have a lot of ramifications beyond their initial presumptions, yeah- changing branch length at all requires a much more flexible arrangement than what mon-pick-data already uses plus dynamic and deeply arbitrary recalculation of absdepth / depth calls and level ranges per vaults 13:52:04 <12ebering> At this point, with several years passing since that was written and the creative directions of the project generating a lot of things that wouldn't be supported, I think it's a lot of work with an uncertain payoff 13:52:16 <06regret-⸸nde※> I suspect there'd actually be some fondness for player species skins, though 13:52:40 <12ebering> new targeters are something that come to mind as a real obstacle 13:54:50 I think there is a lot of potential benefit in being able to implement a concept for a new god or a new species or well... lots of stuff without having to fork or even compile the code. But as you say, its would be a fair amount of work and involve probably some deep changes so if the dev team isn't enthusiastic about the concept, I'll just shrug and move on. 13:56:11 MizMahem: I think the trouble is if one could implement a concept for something moderately complex (like, say, a new god or a species that's not just a stats-and-apts package) without having to fork or compile... it would be because someone else had effectively done the requisite programming in Crawl proper to permit those changes to be made. 13:56:56 It's just spreading the effort around (and increasing the total amount) until the point where multiple mods are making use of hook XYZ 13:59:52 of course, but even being able to simply edit the game data at startup is a fairly low-hanging fruit and would open up a lot. 14:00:30 But eh, I'm not really hear to sell you guys on the concept if your not onboard. Like I said, not interested in trying to push a rope uphill. If you don't want it, you don't want it. 14:01:08 (nb I am not one of those "guys", I am one of the Stoat Soupies, just talking about it from our POV) 14:07:28 👍 14:12:07 03Implojin02 07* 0.31-a0-1470-g6dbd80e900: fix: rcfile autopickup option gem compat (Ge0ff) 10(40 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6dbd80e90024 14:19:07 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1470-g6dbd80e900 (34) 14:27:46 03Implojin02 07* 0.31-a0-1471-ge2d6d42b48: fix: Remove At long tongue from the manual 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2d6d42b4843 14:32:23 there is some irony that making provisions for modding is often least attractive to those who need to be onboard with it, since they can just implement whatever change they want anyways, but beyond lowering the barrier for entry for other peoples ideas, I do think it leads to better code in general since it gets you to really think about what assumptions you are baking in. 14:34:26 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1471-ge2d6d42b48 (34) 14:45:32 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1472-gd74043ad92: Don't create a flayed ghost when killing your own martyr (Darby) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d74043ad9286 14:45:32 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1473-g48da474f17: Don't let Sculpt Simulacrum produce simulacra of tentacles (Darby) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/48da474f1726 14:45:32 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1474-g0872b9eb7f: Don't turn friendly blocks of ice hostile when hit (CarefulOdds) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0872b9eb7ff6 14:45:32 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1475-gd7e1f54061: Make Sculpt Simulacrum less buggy when trying to sculpt krakens (Darby) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d7e1f540618b 14:45:32 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1476-g8a4046af8c: Don't place players under penance for blazeheart golem's explosions (Darby) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a4046af8c75 14:50:45 New branch created: pull/3435 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3435 14:50:45 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3435 * 0.31-a0-1472-ge5475f5259: Mention Armataur rolling MRregen in the manual. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e5475f525968 14:51:02 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1476-g8a4046af8c (34) 16:25:35 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31-a0-1476-g8a4046af8c (34) 17:12:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-1477-gcda7ceedc9: Match ally speed outside combat (elliptic) 10(14 minutes ago, 2 files, 29+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cda7ceedc950 17:12:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-1478-g74ab47f370: Cut accursed CMD_TOGGLE_TRAVEL_SPEED 10(8 minutes ago, 13 files, 5+ 72-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/74ab47f37005 17:15:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-1479-g324eae3c28: Tighten various gem timers 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/324eae3c28f0 17:28:37 04Build failed for 08master @ 74ab47f3 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7352284591 17:33:54 04Build failed for 08master @ 324eae3c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7352305959 17:39:58 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3435 * 0.31-a0-1480-g45d5d0703f: Mention Armataur rolling MP-regen in the manual. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/45d5d0703ff0 17:49:28 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1478-g74ab47f370 (34) 18:07:04 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1479-g324eae3c28 (34) 18:43:42 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1480-g9c3b9a8043: Seriously update docs/develop/spells.txt 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 132+ 140-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c3b9a804318 18:48:15 04Build failed for 08master @ 9c3b9a80 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7352880473 18:49:09 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1480-g9c3b9a8043 (34) 19:08:12 <06pleasingfungus> huh 19:08:26 <06pleasingfungus> @regret-⸸nde※ do we actually have any spells with no schools? 19:08:59 <06regret-⸸nde※> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1190114210244460644/image.png?ex=65a09f3a&is=658e2a3a&hm=b19b12722894961b7956b76f906f022b53716ce940502d84691217ec7220fd91& 19:10:18 <06pleasingfungus> huh 19:10:36 <06pleasingfungus> undecided between ice and summoning. maybe both 19:10:47 <06regret-⸸nde※> (honestly it'd be nice to display schools on monster spells just so all the synonyms for pain and suffering could be shown as necromancy so people can notice it checks rN in some fashion or another, but then we get things like) 19:10:47 <06regret-⸸nde※> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1190114663116066816/image.png?ex=65a09fa6&is=658e2aa6&hm=bc4e530e2705f99802ed8ec6b5bab4f36c74e0d66c050d904f4e68fea5003d4f& 19:11:10 <06pleasingfungus> love to smite 19:11:51 <06regret-⸸nde※> (...actually none of these holy spells are listed as holy in the code, I guess that entry at the end just warns off anybody adding holy spells for players) 19:14:07 <06regret-⸸nde※> (the stuff with spschool::none in spl-data.h is spawn tentacles, cantrip, smiting, trog's hand, ophan holy flames, death knight injury mirror, seraph cleansing flame, and the singing sword's sonic waves because implementation things) 19:15:34 <06pleasingfungus> heh 19:17:07 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3435 * 0.31-a0-1481-g26e9464398: Tweak wording at Implojin's suggestion. 10(79 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26e9464398df 19:25:29 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3435 * 0.31-a0-1481-g0b5ba731b1: Tweak description of At MP-regen (Implojin). 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b5ba731b1a6 19:40:23 <09gammafunk> surprised I never gave sonic wave a school 19:44:18 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1481-g867c55e3b0: Don't drunken brawl if your weapon would place you under penance (Darby) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/867c55e3b067 19:44:18 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1482-g2dea6e066b: Don't crash on placing boulders outside of casting Brom's 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2dea6e066b51 19:44:18 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1483-g8901a676bb: Timeout binding sigils that leave the player's sight 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8901a676bb0f 19:44:18 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1484-gd0b3b2ae9f: Fix blazeheart golem being ironically unable to follow slow players (Darby) 10(51 minutes ago, 4 files, 8+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0b3b2ae9fc3 19:44:18 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1485-g6cad3da956: Actually tag Sculpt Simulacrum as unholy (Darby) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6cad3da956f9 19:45:21 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.31-a0-1486-gbe66496138: Unbrace 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/be6649613860 19:54:49 04Build failed for 08master @ 6cad3da9 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7353221327 20:00:07 04Build failed for 08master @ be664961 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7353226601 20:09:37 <12ebering> @regret-⸸nde※ neat update! I will comb back over my notes from positional magic but it seems like a good rendition. might add some general thoughts about player vs monster spells and avoiding "bolt but blue" for posterity 20:10:04 <06regret-⸸nde※> ^_^ 20:23:38 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1486-gbe66496138 (34) 20:40:55 <06dolorous_84348> I just want to say that making simulacra alchemical instead of undead is a very interesting idea. 20:42:28 <06dolorous_84348> And the confusion over whether the plural is simulacra or simulacrula gave me an idea. 20:43:42 <06dolorous_84348> What the word "simulacrula" makes me think of is a monster, described as follows: 20:44:07 <06dolorous_84348> "Maxwell's greatest creation, before he abandoned alchemy for engineering. Unlike its kin, this simulacrum is sapient, and requires much more blood and ichor to function, which it usually drains from the nearest handy life forms. It served as Maxwell's assistant before the good gods took umbrage and banished it to Cocytus." 20:44:37 <06dolorous_84348> So, basically, an alchemical ice vampire. (Maxwell seems to be the only wizard working with constructs.) 20:45:13 <06pleasingfungus> feels more like a cigotuvi thing, maybe..? 20:45:21 <06pleasingfungus> or a new wizard 🙂 20:45:41 <06dolorous_84348> Maybe so 🙂 20:46:03 <06pleasingfungus> anyway, fun theme! 20:46:09 <06dolorous_84348> Thank you. 20:46:11 <06pleasingfungus> somewhere between josephina and jory 20:47:24 <06dolorous_84348> I'm better at coding for this than playing it, so I'll take your word for it on difficulty. 20:48:19 <06dolorous_84348> The Oni are also definitely an improvement over the ogres. I've been trying them out a lot lately. 20:57:28 <06pleasingfungus> oh, i meant theme-wise! 21:16:09 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1487-g95e4157dad: Mention Armataur rolling MP-regen in the manual. 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95e4157dad3a 21:16:09 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1488-gf9f310993c: Tweak description of At MP-regen (Implojin). 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9f310993c4e 21:21:16 04Build failed for 08master @ f9f31099 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7353677386 21:28:42 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1489-ge8925a3f95: Fix typo in new Sculpt Simulacrum description. 10(33 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e8925a3f95ba 21:28:42 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1490-gec74395fc0: Consistently spell the plural of simulacrum. 10(32 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec74395fc062 21:28:42 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1491-g39c5316367: Fix changelog typo. 10(32 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39c531636791 21:29:45 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1492-g96aa2eae3f: Consistently capitalise Human in species descs. 10(34 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/96aa2eae3fa1 21:34:23 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1492-g96aa2eae3f (34) 21:35:41 04Build failed for 08master @ 39c53163 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7353742836 21:37:48 04Build failed for 08master @ 96aa2eae 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7353745795 21:43:41 <06dolorous_84348> Okay. After checking their descriptions, yes, they do fit theme-wise. 22:01:06 New branch created: pull/3438 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3438 22:01:06 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3438 * 0.31-a0-1493-gda7672c0d1: Ignore non-.yaml files in games.d/ 10(76 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/da7672c0d1b4 22:09:27 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3420 * 0.31-a0-1493-gfc6f5a7d14: Allow polymorphing monsters into uglies. 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 16+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc6f5a7d14ce 22:15:44 03gammafunk02 07* 0.31-a0-1493-gb6db4fbaf3: fix: The ikiller field for aspiring flesh 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6db4fbaf311 22:20:51 04Build failed for 08master @ b6db4fba 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7353980907 22:26:11 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1494-g63d5b5648c: Allow cloning of uglies and dancing weapons. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63d5b5648c74 22:27:14 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1495-g358e972e7c: Allow polymorphing monsters into uglies. 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 16+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/358e972e7c1b 22:33:47 04Build failed for 08master @ 63d5b564 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7354048432 22:34:43 04Build failed for 08master @ 358e972e 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7354050757 22:34:46 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1495-g358e972e7c (34) 22:39:46 03David Lawrence Ramsey02 07* 0.31-a0-1496-g79c7dd0eeb: Add more colours of Oni player base tiles. 10(26 hours ago, 7 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/79c7dd0eeb93 22:41:17 <06pleasingfungus> @dolorous_84348 btw, should we set up a mailmap entry so that github describes you as dolorous? (very minor) 22:47:52 04Build failed for 08master @ 79c7dd0e 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7354118865 23:04:56 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1496-g79c7dd0eeb (34) 23:10:12 <06dolorous_84348> Yes, that would be good. 23:11:41 <06dolorous_84348> Thank you. 23:11:45 <06pleasingfungus> np! 23:11:52 <06pleasingfungus> looking into the test crashes now, btw 23:12:10 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-1497-g3db28f3c96: Update the mailmap for dolorous 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3db28f3c96c8 23:16:45 04Build failed for 08master @ 3db28f3c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/7354282536 23:18:48 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1497-g3db28f3c96 (34) 23:27:06 <06pleasingfungus> going insane trying to fix this crash 23:27:31 <06pleasingfungus> just went back several weeks without finding (a) a version that causes this crash locally or (b) a version that doesn't crash in a different place 23:29:30 <06pleasingfungus> yeah, everything as far back as 67763e304b3c6c2582a3a1bfcb3555c0d2e4b0f1 crashes for me. i give up, sorry 23:30:07 <04dracoomega> Wait, so github only started catching crashes from stuff you pushed today, but that doesn't match your local experience with this at all? 23:31:30 <04dracoomega> (Can compile fulldebug myself and take a look) 23:34:59 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1497-g3db28f3c96 (34) 23:35:00 <06pleasingfungus> basically, yeah. first crash i see of this set is in https://discord.com/channels/735056636644687913/747522859361894521/1190088953156612167 , after the match ally speed etc change (which does seem like a suspicious candidate), but local crashes go back weeks further and have a totally different reason 23:35:26 <04dracoomega> Yeah, like I assumed it was ally speed stuff 23:35:51 <04dracoomega> Index was getting some consistent crashing in Arena stuff locally this evening, but that still seemed to work for me 23:36:05 <04dracoomega> Oh, well there's an arena mention 23:36:11 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-1498-gb37faac87e: Maybe fix a crash 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b37faac87ef2 23:42:48 <04dracoomega> github seems to think that's okay, but the concerning thing is that when I run a full test suite multiple times in a row before that fix, I still get no crash or error locally either 23:49:14 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1498-gb37faac87e (34) 23:56:52 <06pleasingfungus> rip 23:56:53 <04Cerebot> rip 23:57:01 <06pleasingfungus> that's c for you imo 23:57:05 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1498-gb37faac87e 23:57:05 <06pleasingfungus> unspecified behavior, etc