00:09:52 03Monkooky02 {Implojin} 07* 0.31-a0-1067-gb2354cd04e: feat: Armataur rework: Rampage healing 10(3 months ago, 18 files, 106+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b2354cd04e75 00:43:11 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1067-gb2354cd04e (34) 01:01:15 Azazsd (L7 MiBe) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:5) 01:02:58 Grendle (L10 MiGl) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:8) 01:04:13 sammy202020 (L4 MiFi) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:4) 01:06:11 jfcaron (L10 GnBe) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:9) 01:41:29 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 04:23:25 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5140-g5775ae71e1 05:29:35 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1067-gb2354cd (34) 06:19:42 <03s​emi_tonal> i use that feature all the time and i don't think that works as a fix for it 06:20:36 <03s​emi_tonal> the thing that's good about it is that you can have a potion shortcut on q1 and also a scroll shortcut on r1, for example 06:26:52 <03s​emi_tonal> i'm not really a fan of increasing the number of inventory slots in the first place, my preferred way of reducing inventory pressure would still be to reduce the number of item types there are to carry in a given game, not to make space for carrying more (merging ring types per elliptic's suggestion a while back, more item sets maybe, etc) 06:41:08 <02s​entei> I talked with lici about the inscription, since he uses it as well, the quick solution would be to assign potions to 1-4, and scrolls to q-r or a-f, resulting in only a small change with mostly the same finger movement. 08:16:16 <05i​coson> where I use this feature (or at least did, when I was playing) is with @q inscriptions for quick access in quiver/fire menus; so it does seem like a case where everyone is using them for someone inconsistent things 08:16:25 <05i​coson> *somewhat 08:17:36 <05i​coson> I sort of agree that reducing item types >> increasing inv size 08:19:42 <05i​coson> if 10 were a number that would actually eliminate inventory pressure, I might think differently, but it isn't (and there is no reasonable number that would, as far as I can see?) 08:21:34 <05i​coson> my other worry (which may or may not materialize to a real problem) is that this would interact badly with various numpad/numrow issues. Hopefully numrow numbers shouldn't be a problem though? 08:50:47 <06p​leasingfungus> hm, i guess my feeling is that there’s nonlinear effects of inventory size on pressure 08:51:12 <06p​leasingfungus> such that below some size it becomes extremely painful to lose slots, and above some size it becomes less significant to add more 08:52:24 <06p​leasingfungus> my feeling is that our efforts to reduce inventory pressure have moved us to a point where it’s not too bad, and adding more slots would help reasonably and also give us a bit of breathing room for changes that increase pressure 08:55:52 <06p​leasingfungus> no strong opinion on reducing pressure; i’m not opposed but didn’t see any real low hanging fruit last time i talked about this 08:56:20 <06p​leasingfungus> re merging ring types and adding more item sets 08:56:45 <06p​leasingfungus> certainly possible we do that but it’s neither exclusive with adding more inv slots nor obviously better 08:57:11 <06p​leasingfungus> good point re q1 vs r1; i hadn’t considered/understood that 08:57:35 <06p​leasingfungus> also good point re numrow 08:58:16 <06p​leasingfungus> kate: why not both? (increase inv slots and reduce pressure with merges, etc) 10:05:43 03ebering02 07* 0.31-a0-1068-g5939ac1fb6: fix: condition troll hide on species (Lici, Ge0ff) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5939ac1fb62c 10:19:05 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1068-g5939ac1fb6 (34) 14:28:41 <04⸸​※> which ring merges would those be, out of curiousity? 14:48:01 <03s​emi_tonal> i think the list i had as proposed by elliptic was flight and willpower (enlightenment, as with the potion), rF and rC (resistance), rN and SInv (protection from spooky ghosts), fire and ice (no resists, just enhancers). i could also see doing rPois and rCorr maybe? and this would go along with making ring swapping a slow action like amulet/armour swapping 14:50:25 <03s​emi_tonal> and i think a suggested bump in generation rates of potions of resistance, to compensate a bit for it being harder to swap resistances mid-fight 14:51:03 -!- kate-- is now known as kate- 15:07:18 <04⸸​※> interesting, if with a few weird consequences (getting free rC when putting on rF for orbs of fire in Zot, instead of even rC- from a ring of fire, is a little sad for, uh, white draconians / black draconian knights / golden dragons) 15:08:37 <04⸸​※> also might make shoals a bit easier 15:12:04 <09h​ellmonk> Surprised to see rF rC merge. I always assumed it would involve merging rF with fire and rC with ice 15:12:28 <09h​ellmonk> Into resist + enhance ring 15:28:10 <04⸸​※> (would probably support the resist + enhance ring versions instead more, yeah) 15:31:32 <09g​ammafunk> It feels a bit awkward how ring of fire+ice offers you enhancer in two schools that happen to have no overlap 15:34:18 <04⸸​※> level 6 steam ball 15:36:41 <09g​ammafunk> I think there's a PF branch with something like that implemented 16:14:57 New branch created: index-0.31-monswork (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/index-0.31-monswork 16:14:57 03regret-index02 07[index-0.31-monswork] * 0.31-a0-1069-g89b64868d4: Maurice: from human to vine stalker 10(58 seconds ago, 14 files, 42+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/89b64868d41e 16:25:20 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31-a0-1068-g5939ac1fb6 (34) 17:11:27 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1073-g81f46d0852: handle inventory expansion with a minor tag 10(8 hours ago, 3 files, 15+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81f46d085259 17:11:27 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1074-gf45deb9ca9: update manual 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f45deb9ca94b 17:11:27 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1075-g1c57989678: Use the 52 Define to make things clearer 10(7 hours ago, 14 files, 34+ 33-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c5798967875 17:11:27 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1076-gefbefe36e9: Add index_to_alphanumeric and alphanumeric_to_index to make code clearer 10(7 hours ago, 14 files, 60+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/efbefe36e900 17:11:27 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1077-g54c83beedf: update javascript to support alphanumeric inventory indexes 10(7 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54c83beedf16 17:11:27 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1078-g175ac6de74: whitespace 10(78 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/175ac6de7482 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1069-g4473b42519: mark this as the messaging change which needs to be done for everything. 10(27 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4473b4251996 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1070-g0016b50e58: update the define from 52 to 62 10(27 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0016b50e589d 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1071-g1e3e2a721a: Update letter_to_index and index_to_letter to support 0-9, not sure about 10(26 hours ago, 2 files, 14+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1e3e2a721ad5 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1072-g89d7fe7d45: A small sacrifice, digits are no longer available as inscription shortcuts, 10(26 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/89d7fe7d4508 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1073-gcc57f82438: accept numbers as well for menu selection 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc57f8243801 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1074-ga1f6f67c6d: a huge blow for bread-swingers (cut digit_inscription_to_item) 10(25 hours ago, 4 files, 0+ 52-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a1f6f67c6d23 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1075-g7f4c852954: remove usage of MF_SELECT_QTY, keep the enum entry though 10(25 hours ago, 3 files, 3+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f4c85295487 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1076-gad9f5ff9d0: likely good. 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad9f5ff9d053 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1077-g772c078f79: updates 10(23 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/772c078f79f2 17:17:47 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1078-g17b4c0e100: handle inventory expansion with a minor tag 10(8 hours ago, 3 files, 15+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17b4c0e10078 17:17:47 ... and 5 more commits 17:24:54 <02s​entei> I used the minor tag to work around the inventory getting bigger, the bigger inventory seems to work, except for one main thing that I was stuck for and couldn't figure out in a timely manner. The specialized use menus: "wield", "wear", "put on" are just sending an "_Okay, then." when trying to select something with a number. It looks like the items should have the correct index set inside those menus when listed as a menu item. I 17:24:55 couldn't find the short circuit spot which kicks the user out of the menu when a number is typed in. Any tips on where I could look for that? 17:38:41 03Rytis Petronis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3357 * 0.31-a0-1084-g9ef8c32896: update comment 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ef8c3289679