00:54:49 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a28f 01:56:17 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.18.2-6-gdc1d2a5023 01:58:47 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5119-g87b74fb374 04:22:51 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5119-g87b74fb374 05:23:23 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18.2-6-gdc1d2a5 05:52:33 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a (34) 09:01:40 hi all ... why is it that a steam dragon knows exactly where i am when i'm invisible ? 09:04:48 <06p​leasingfungus> in general, monsters have a chance of guessing your position when you’re invis, just as you get silhouettes for invisible monsters 09:05:07 <06p​leasingfungus> steam dragon breath attack has a large aoe, so easy for it to hit you 09:05:44 <06p​leasingfungus> note also that invisible creatures (monsters and players) can always be detected when in opaque clouds, like steam 09:17:57 oh, right ... that must be it ... thought possibly a bug but your explanation makes sense ... thanks 10:43:07 <04⸸​※> (for the record, my vote is also to cut loros over reapers for the self-summoner if a 2 must be cut to do so, though I have to admit my first thought on reading about mirror demons was just can't we use rakshasas in pan if we want to use phantom mirror beyond depths, they're better than all the 4s and 3s) 10:44:35 <06p​leasingfungus> i agree rakshasas are friends, but we aren’t talking about phantom mirror, though 10:45:27 <04⸸​※> prrrrrrrrrobably fine to have that theme overlap 10:47:22 <06p​leasingfungus> fwiw, i’d also be fine with a nonliving take on the theme 10:51:35 <04⸸​※> (reapers have been adapted to fit in a bunch of random vaults and it's nice for demons to represent there being non-fiery elemental hells, while loros kind of aren't useable outside of pan or abyss as invisible monsters not really expected in most normal branches and thus aren't used except in any tier 2 lists; I like antimagic monsters for theme and specific-player-targetting purposes but they're not really usable in any of the contexts 10:51:35 looking for such) 11:17:33 <06p​leasingfungus> probably "perma invis" + "non-batty melee-only monster" are also not that exciting, since usually it's quite straightforward to tell where the monster is 12:50:46 03yrdzrfxndfvh02 {regret-index} 07* 0.31-a0-1002-g8e65716e6e: orb shop vault (#3141) 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 60+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e65716e6eae 12:59:09 <04⸸​※> so close to being caught up... 13:06:09 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1002-g8e65716e6e (34) 16:25:23 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31-a0-1002-g8e65716e6e (34)