01:31:27 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5119-g87b74fb374 04:22:28 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5119-g87b74fb374 05:07:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.31-a0-997-g9a2f3ff (34) 06:35:30 03aegolden02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.2-4-gea398421b6: Exclude "MacOSX.sdk" from SDK search in OS X build 10(7 years ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea398421b601 06:35:30 03|amethyst02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.2-5-gf9d89e4208: Include where needed (#10926) 10(7 years ago, 16 files, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9d89e420811 06:35:30 03Aidan Holm02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.2-6-gdc1d2a5023: Fix includes for some commonly used header files 10(3 years ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc1d2a5023ba 08:18:09 <09gammafunk> 0.18 commits :gloweye: 08:24:36 <06pleasingfungus> retvrn..? 10:55:22 <04⸸※> dgn.monster_weapon sure would be much more useful if it could be used for floor items too 10:55:22 <04⸸※> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1171508205512306720/image.png?ex=655cef09&is=654a7a09&hm=0b60f341e8eabb66a65f074376d88e82f4ad9cb587b663fabc8ff3acd731689d& 13:08:38 <09gammafunk> Isn't that just a specialized function meant only for monster items that calls the more general random item Def function (which can be used for floor item)? 13:09:15 <09gammafunk> See the hyrda ghost vault for an example 13:10:31 <09gammafunk> Guess I should ping you for this ^ @⸸※ 13:12:47 <04⸸※> doesn't really skip the "constantly make a custom list to avoid how bad any weapon is" use 13:46:39 <09gammafunk> Well if you have a specific proposal on that front in terms of the design of that mode of item Gen on c++ side, I'm sure many would appreciate the improvement. The issue seems to be what the interface should look like and what exactly it should support 13:47:18 <09gammafunk> Otherwise we're sort of stuck with these types of hacks 14:11:43 <06pleasingfungus> i wonder if some way to specify "a type of weapon this monster usually uses, but with a specific brand" would be useful 14:12:01 <06pleasingfungus> "any default weapon ego:draining", something like that 14:12:41 <06pleasingfungus> i guess the example above wants something more like "any strong weapon" 14:12:53 <06pleasingfungus> (and specifically melee?) 14:47:34 <05icoson> those are hypothetically the commits that will allow building on earlier versions with current gcc (and one that fixes the mac build) 15:54:28 03NormalPerson702 {regret-index} 07* 0.31-a0-998-g94548685de: Buff Zonguldrok's Shrine 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 109+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94548685dea6 15:54:28 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-999-gf599b16ab9: Antique lich -> Antique champion (also no longer just a rename!) 10(6 hours ago, 20 files, 50+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f599b16ab953 15:54:28 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1000-gd5ff2fe127: Finish fixing up wizlab_zonguldrok (#732) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 69+ 89-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5ff2fe12734 15:54:28 03regret-index02 07* 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a28f: A quick sweep over wizlab.des 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 112+ 109-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/770356a28f38 16:25:29 <09gammafunk> yes, this alone would be useful I think. A lot of the vault setup I've done is recreating mon-gear.cc stuff, for example. However I've also made a bunch of lists (in e.g. dungeon.lua) that are like the mon-gear.cc data for specific monsters, yet augmented with some higher quality types that are also usable and thematic for the monster. Not sure there's any very good solution for that other than maintaining such lists in a standard place 16:25:30 and somehow having better lua to use the lists. 16:25:31 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a28f (34) 16:26:24 <09gammafunk> But there are definitely a number of cases where simply having mon-gear.cc stuff plus the ability to specify egos, other props, randard, etc would be helpful 16:26:43 <06pleasingfungus> maybe just a shorthand for 'here's a list of weapons, apply the same ego/etc to all of them' would be good 16:27:09 <09gammafunk> yeah, that's basically what my lua in dungeon.lua is providing 16:30:39 <09gammafunk> yeah, I figured. One project I want to get back to is building monster on all possible previous versions on CDO so that gretell can return those. There is some awkwardness with setting up the monster repo properly for this so I've set it aside, but if an old crawl can't even build with cdo's current gcc, then I can't do much more. So it's good that 0.18 is at least taken care of 16:30:41 <09gammafunk> hrm, actually 16:30:45 <09gammafunk> *0.18?goblin 16:30:52 <09gammafunk> *0.19?goblin 16:30:53 <04Cerebot> goblin (g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | weapons, items, doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 16:31:51 <09gammafunk> ok, guess I didn't get 0.18 setup. We have 0.10 (for some reason) and 0.19+, so I'd have to try 0.11-0.18. And in theory could do 0.9, the first version that had monster, but not sure if that will work 16:32:11 <09gammafunk> we had all these version on neil's old server, but those binaries are sadly lost now 16:32:47 <09gammafunk> it's vital that I be able to tell people about Swamp vapour monsters by showing their stats 16:41:38 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a28f (34) 16:53:18 <05icoson> well, tbc it may not be taken care of in that I ddn't actually test on gcc/linux 22:18:42 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18.2-6-gdc1d2a5023 22:41:34 <06pleasingfungus> wow, cue autobuilds 0.18.. 23:35:05 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a28f (34) 23:57:17 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-1001-g770356a28f