00:46:43 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-5014-gf9597c7f93
01:55:38 -!- node11_ is now known as node1
02:08:18 <Kelbell> rbyellow5 (L27 GrFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 681: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Zig:18)
03:22:47 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-5014-gf9597c7f93
05:14:36 <NotCheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.31-a0-591-g02b9bc310a: Fix a typo 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/02b9bc310aa0
05:14:36 <NotCheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.31-a0-592-geb5f7b07fe: Add messaging when the reaping brand activates 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb5f7b07fe25
05:18:46 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-592-geb5f7b07fe (34)
05:29:02 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.31-a0-590-g8a5a436 (34)
06:37:49 <Kelbell> CarefulOdds (L22 OgCj) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4989: Invalid item: (quantity: 0) gold piece (Vaults:3)
09:12:52 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-593-g7edc133841: Eustachio triumphs 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7edc1338418a
09:12:52 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-594-g01f9145181: Fix hit% (acrobat, rypofalem, elliptic, implojin) 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/01f914518122
09:45:28 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-594-g01f9145181 (34)
11:18:07 <Guest20> Please just bring back attacks of opportunity isnstead of attacks of opportunity + extra steps... I wasn't a huge fan of aoo at first like any competent player I adapted and now I don't mind... I am sure most players feel the same. The extra steps just make things complicated... I mean just look at it, you implemented a new system to replace aoo
11:18:07 <Guest20> that didn't even last an entire day and now you sorta bring back energy which is the very thing you swore to destroy... Consider it, at least. Thanks.
11:18:26 <Guest20> but like any competent player*
11:20:07 <Guest20> also please bribe sastrei into making a flux form tile
11:38:55 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> i’d reply, but it was a hit and run…
12:48:15 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> that person always drops by to deliver bad hot takes and leaves
12:49:14 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> getting to the point where I'd consider an irc ban if they're not going to do anything meaningful other than that
12:54:19 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> not sure as they’re the same guest
12:54:25 <geekosaur> same host
12:54:32 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> sure if*
12:54:34 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> ah
12:54:45 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> well then
13:45:28 <Pinkbeast> Kind of familiar tone each time, too
13:47:37 <Pinkbeast> 83.222.144.215.senselan.net surely is
14:29:11 <Guest35> Bros can you make demonic magic work from level 1 with wands because it would make it less of a dud for meleedudes. I thought that was kinda the goal making mutations more flexible like that
14:30:37 <geekosaur> speak of the devil…
14:31:46 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-595-g4209ae197b: Simplify attacks of opportunity (elliptic) 10(5 minutes ago, 9 files, 62+ 114-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4209ae197b53
15:09:40 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-595-g4209ae197b (34)
15:14:38 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-596-g831eee08f1: Remove an outdated comment (Ge0ff) 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/831eee08f1ec
15:19:30 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-596-g831eee08f1 (34)
15:25:46 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.31-a0-595-g4209ae197b (34)
15:48:06 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> @hellmonk i'm investigating the bailey ironman bug and have concluded i don't understand how it works in non ironman gen
15:48:15 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> oh boy
15:55:42 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> the dream
15:56:03 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> so what seems to be happening is that it's using the default placeholder bailey map, which is empty
15:56:13 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus>  NAME:   bailey TAGS:   allow_dup PLACE:  Bailey ORIENT: encompass {{   local btype = dgn.persist.bailey_type   if not btype then -- Wizmode     if crawl.coinflip() then       btype = "bailey_axe"     else       btype = "bailey_polearm"     end   end   if crawl.game_started() then     local map = dgn.map_by_tag(btype)     assert(map, "Couldn't find a map for " .. btype)     dgn.place_map(map, false, false)   end }} MAP ENDMAP
15:56:15 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> sorry irc people
15:56:37 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> crawl.game_started() is false at this point, since we're doing pregen
15:56:44 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> hmmmmmmm
15:57:00 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> i wonder if full pregen doesn't normally generate portal vaults...?
15:58:08 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus>  // Portals are handled via `portal_generation_order`, and generated as-needed // with the level they appear on.
15:59:01 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> @icoson , you wrote a bunch of pregen stuff - i don't suppose you remember why check_map_validity doesn't fail for when pregenning a bailey, even though the bailey map should be empty at that point?
15:59:07 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> i wonder if just no one uses full gen
15:59:08 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> let's see
15:59:32 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> oh i see
15:59:50 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> normally we only do full pregen (ie baileys) after game_started = true
16:00:22 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/startup.cc#L275 game_started set true on line 255, full pregen line 291
16:00:40 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> is there a reason we're doing full pregen in ironman earlier?
16:00:50 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> oh, ha
16:00:58 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> because it's supposed to stop at temple... but temple is disabled in ironman!
16:06:21 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> lol
16:06:38 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> ok, thanks for troubleshooting that, I can probably fix it from there
16:07:14 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> just by stopping pregen somewhere else ig
16:12:13 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> no i got it
16:12:20 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> it's a very funny bug
16:13:04 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> oops lol
16:13:05 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> it's a merge
16:13:09 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> anyway last commit has it
16:13:14 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[great-magnetic-field] * 0.31-a0-615-g6a05042ce5: Merge branch 'master' into great-magnetic-field 10(50 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6a05042ce591
16:13:14 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[great-magnetic-field] * 0.31-a0-616-g7ed2584c1a: Fix a bailey crash 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ed2584c1a40
16:13:25 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> btw i think we can also get rid of the thing you added in dbg-scan?       if (crawl_state.game_is_ironman() && exit == DNGN_EXIT_ZIGGURAT)         exit = DNGN_UNSEEN;
16:13:28 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I did not understand enough about how pregen worked when cutting temple, never thought to look there
16:13:35 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> it took mega digging
16:13:40 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> pain in the butt bug
16:13:43 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> yeah that's strictly to prevent crashes whehn generating zig so that I could test other stuff
16:13:58 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> oh i thought it might be related to this
16:14:08 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I believe it is the same crash
16:14:10 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> OK
16:14:17 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> but zig always generates so it crashed every time
16:14:27 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> nice
16:14:41 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> ok so what was the crypt bug
16:14:44 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> i forgot sorry
16:14:53 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> oh right two crypt entries
16:14:59 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> that was the thing you found earlier where it uses some lua hook to generate a vaults crypt room
16:15:09 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> based on crypt's assigned depth
16:15:15 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> oh, good for past me
16:15:17 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> so I just need to override that depth assignment
16:15:20 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[great-magnetic-field] * 0.31-a0-617-g179bec0560: Cut a zig hack 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/179bec056013
16:15:31 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> or override the lua but that's probably more work
16:16:07 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> well lmk
16:16:26 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I'll take a crack at that and the vault tag this weekend
16:16:42 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> hoping to get things into a playable state
16:16:50 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> in the loose sense
16:16:58 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> sick
16:17:43 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> then can start working on whatever mechanics are needed for it to be good
16:20:29 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> re rift wizard previews, my thought was something like: no time passes on a level until you take an action that's not "descend/ascend stairs"
16:20:51 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> oh, that seems reasonable
16:20:53 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> so you just hop down the stair normally, but you can freely go back up and down again until you decide to step off, shoot, etc
16:20:56 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> to implement I mean
16:21:00 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> (and can use X] as usual)
16:21:25 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> it does mean you always optimally go down every stair which is a bit annoying but maybe ok
16:21:28 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> yeah
16:21:42 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> certainly worth consideration though
16:21:51 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> one thing you could do is uh
16:22:15 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> once you descend one stair, automatically reveal everything in LOS of all the others (disabling traps and gozag stuff and whatever)
16:22:20 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> (piety, whatever)
16:22:27 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> (maybe piety's fine i don't care)
16:22:39 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> then you just have to X around to decide whether you want to hop back up or stick with this one
16:23:10 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> might work
16:23:16 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> the dream
16:23:44 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I think my "major" concern is shops, and I'd like to try some kind of debt feature for that
16:23:59 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> like you can go negative gold for one item but then you're locked out of buying until you earn it back
16:24:20 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> but I'm not sure on the details and it might be easier to just change shop generation
16:24:38 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> shops feel secondary to me
16:24:52 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> i agree they're something that needs to be addressed and they're more important than idk troves
16:25:04 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> it's not needed to get to playable but needs to be addressed for game feel
16:25:11 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> trove is easy just disable it etc
16:25:29 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> the thinking mans solution, if it doesnt work just disable it
16:25:33 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> hellcrawl 2
16:25:47 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I only know how to do one thing and that thing is remove feature
16:26:12 <Discord|> <06p​leasingfungus> how about eat chip
16:26:19 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> was born before 1993
16:36:48 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08great-magnetic-field @ 7ed2584c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/5914004480
16:40:56 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08great-magnetic-field @ 179bec05 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/5914011827
22:34:56 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-596-g831eee08f1 (34)
22:56:31 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-596-g831eee08f1
23:48:04 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.31-a0-596-g831eee08f1 (34)
23:54:21 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-596-g831eee08f1