00:24:22 <02Namanix> Working on getting 0.30 installed! 00:35:42 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4917-g3c53b74d1c 01:41:19 Stable (0.30) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-b1-2-g02819fbbbe 03:22:54 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4917-g3c53b74d1c 08:41:41 Stable (0.30) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-b1-2-g02819fbbbe 08:43:11 Webtiles server stopped. 08:46:38 Webtiles server started. 15:47:06 Stable (0.30) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30-b1-2-g02819fbbbe 16:33:45 <09gammafunk> &rc . cbr2 trunk 16:33:48 <04Cerebot> ?rc gammafunk cbr2 16:33:53 <09gammafunk> &rc . trunk cbr2 16:33:55 <04Cerebot> https://cbro.berotato.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 16:35:52 <09gammafunk> !log . cbr2 16:35:53 <04Cerebot> 15. gammafunk, XL25 DgTm, T:130470: https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20211219-153841.txt 16:36:20 <06advil> I've pushed a tourney branch at https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney/tree/0.30-tourney that has sentei's PR, various smaller banner tweaks I came up with, but not (i) the new banner ideas, or (ii) any source/time updates 16:37:11 <06advil> I did remove brute force and heretic 16:40:30 <06advil> so the two new banner possibilities would be a first rune challenge, and a lugonu challenge (replace spiteful?) 16:41:09 <06advil> even if there's no new lugonu banner, I don't think removing current lugonu/spiteful would be the worst idea 16:41:12 <09gammafunk> did you see lici's proposal that we have per-god high scores? 16:41:40 <06advil> no, could be good 16:41:57 <09gammafunk> I guess that's not a challenge exactly, more a new category, but it could lead to a banner too (memory hazy on how we do banners for high scores currently though) 16:43:29 <06advil> though tbh I don't realistically think I'll have nearly as much time to work on this this week as I had expected, and that sounds hard 16:43:38 <06advil> I added it to https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney/issues/13#issuecomment-1518690661 16:43:58 <09gammafunk> cool, thanks, and yeah an implementation unlikely to come from me with how little time we have left 16:44:32 <06advil> I think I can probably handle the new banner ideas 16:47:07 <10PleasingFungus> people on reddit are asking for a tournament confirmation 16:47:20 <10PleasingFungus> i'm very confused by this. didn't we already announce it 16:47:24 <10PleasingFungus> do we have to re-announce it 16:47:45 <06advil> https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-1-april-2023-and-tournament-announcement 16:47:49 <06advil> so yes 16:48:00 <06advil> I guess I didn't do anything like pin it on the sub 16:48:53 <10PleasingFungus> it is possible that embedding it in an april fool's post may have been, in some way, unhelpful 16:48:55 <09gammafunk> It's cuz you announced on April 1st! They thought it was a joke! 16:49:25 <09gammafunk> Now we have to cancel the tournament because people will believe the jokes we make on April 1st!!! 16:53:42 <06advil> hm why didn't the 0.30-b tag create release artifacts? 16:54:00 <06advil> oh maybe it needs to be made into a release 16:54:54 <06advil> whoa, there's now a "generate release notes" button that would be quite slick if we used a PR-only workflow 17:00:19 <09gammafunk> what would a PR-only workflow mean, literally every commit is made as part of a PR? 17:01:30 <06advil> yeah 17:01:37 <06advil> e.g. I think cdda is like that 17:01:59 <06advil> hm, deb building failed, it didn't like the version string, but maybe that's ok 17:02:17 <06advil> as long as it doesn't prevent creating the artifacts 17:02:26 <09gammafunk> not sure I would love making a PR to commit a single checkwhite 17:02:48 <09gammafunk> but maybe you can streamline the PR creation so it's not much work e.g. with the github cli tools 17:03:01 <06advil> or have bots do the tedious stuff 17:03:09 <09gammafunk> oh yeah, I do want a checkwhite bot 17:04:14 <06advil> well, I do see some non-PR commits in https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/commits/master, but tons of PR commits (they're on PR 65423!) 17:04:26 <09gammafunk> dang 17:05:01 <09gammafunk> 187 open PRs too 17:05:39 <06advil> oh, but they do merge commits, so at least some of the non-PR-identified commits I'm seeing come from PRs too 17:06:15 <09gammafunk> > Add Molting for Exoskeletons How come our exoskeletons don't have molting??? 17:09:53 <06advil> distinct lack of molting in general in crawl 17:12:06 <06advil> ok, this will help clarify (though in retrospect I should have put it in the title, guess that can't be edited): https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/1364t9r/questions_events_25/ 17:13:34 <06advil> also there are prerelease artifacts here (except deb): https://github.com/crawl/crawl/releases/tag/0.30-b1 17:13:53 <06advil> the CI build life is good when it works! 17:14:28 <06advil> I remember when a team of 2-3 people had to generate those by hand 17:14:50 <09gammafunk> yes, not fun tasks, quite glad that the debs are automated 17:15:34 <09gammafunk> you probably weren't planning on making debs for the beta anyhow, but yeah seems fine to save that for release 17:16:06 <09gammafunk> oh neat, it's even marked as Pre-release 17:16:48 <06advil> yeah I did that 17:16:53 <09gammafunk> we just didn't even bother making pre-release binaries etc in the past because who wanted that work on top of the work we'd have to do for the actual release 17:16:57 <06advil> there's a checkbox when converting it to a release 17:17:28 <09gammafunk> nice. I should probably try out these Appimages at some point 17:18:23 <09gammafunk> hrm, my ubuntu gnome doesn't quite know what to do with them, it seems 17:18:46 <06advil> I know that robertxgray has tested them on something 17:18:59 <06advil> some day I'll install linux on my old laptop 17:20:23 <09gammafunk> aha, I had to tell the file manager to foolishly allow running files as executables 17:21:38 <09gammafunk> oh wow, it still didn't work when I ran it from file manager, but if I started from terminal, it just instantly started console crawl 17:21:52 <09gammafunk> presumably it failed from file manager only because it's a console application, let me try tiles 17:22:31 <09gammafunk> oh, hah, all I was doing via file manager there was adding the execute bit, figures 17:22:51 <09gammafunk> and yep, it works even from file manager when I run tiles (after setting execution bit) 17:23:11 <09gammafunk> who needs debs! 17:31:45 <06advil> old people, probably 17:32:38 <06advil> (joke) 17:32:53 <06advil> I wonder how much the old school debian (or like, slackware) guys with giant beards hate things like appimage 17:43:57 <|amethyst> btw, since tourney is coming up, has anything happened with scoring for ties in the last year and a half? 17:44:54 <|amethyst> I had suggested back then to score ties by evenly splitting the points for the two places (then go on to the next place) 17:45:26 <|amethyst> e.g. if there's a tie for 2nd, give both players (2nd points + 3rd points)/2, and give the next player 4th place points 17:45:51 <|amethyst> (this came up in the 0.27 tournament: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/p5m892/unsportsmanship_in_dcss_tournament/) 17:51:59 <06advil> lol, I forgot about that drama 18:05:29 <09gammafunk> tfw Yermak isn't around for people to complain that he always wins the tournament :yogidaFeels: 19:57:17 <09gammafunk> !nemeligibleclasscounts 19:57:21 <04Cerebot> Eligible Nemelex Choice class combo counts: Re: 26, CA: 19, De: 9, AE: 5, En: 5, Tm: 5, Ne: 4, Hs: 3, Wr: 3, IE: 3, Cj: 3, EE: 3, Su: 2, Ar: 2, Br: 2, VM: 2, Gl: 2, Mo: 2, CK: 2, Hu: 2, FE: 2, Wn: 2, HW: 1, Be: 1, Fi: 1 19:57:23 <09gammafunk> !nemeligiblespeciescounts 19:57:26 <04Cerebot> Eligible Nemelex Choice species combo counts: At: 24, Me: 21, Ba: 6, Fo: 6, DE: 5, Dj: 5, Mf: 4, Te: 4, Gh: 3, Ko: 3, Vp: 3, Og: 3, Mu: 3, Sp: 2, Fe: 2, VS: 2, Gr: 2, Dr: 2, Hu: 2, HO: 2, Gn: 2, Tr: 1, Mi: 1, Na: 1, Dg: 1, Op: 1 19:58:00 <09gammafunk> current nem eligible list of ~110 combos using cutoff of 51 19:58:53 <09gammafunk> even though the algo down-weights previous choices pretty aggressively, it's a bit worrying that two species/two classes so dominate relative to the other ones just because the other ones have far lower counts 19:59:02 <09gammafunk> !nemeligibleclasscounts !re !ca 19:59:06 <04Cerebot> Eligible Nemelex Choice class combo counts (!re !ca): De: 9, AE: 5, En: 5, Tm: 5, Ne: 4, Hs: 3, Wr: 3, IE: 3, Cj: 3, EE: 3, Su: 2, Ar: 2, Br: 2, VM: 2, Gl: 2, Mo: 2, CK: 2, Hu: 2, FE: 2, Wn: 2, HW: 1, Be: 1, Fi: 1 19:59:12 <09gammafunk> er 19:59:16 <09gammafunk> !nemeligibleclasscounts !at !me 19:59:20 <04Cerebot> Eligible Nemelex Choice class combo counts (!at !me): Re: 24, CA: 17, De: 8, AE: 3, En: 3, Tm: 3, Ne: 2, Br: 1, Cj: 1, EE: 1, IE: 1, Wr: 1, Hs: 1 19:59:35 <09gammafunk> !nemeligiblespeciescounts !re !ca 19:59:38 <04Cerebot> Eligible Nemelex Choice species combo counts (!re !ca): At: 22, Me: 19, Fo: 5, Ba: 4, Dj: 4, DE: 3, Mf: 2, Te: 2, Gh: 1, Ko: 1, Og: 1, Mu: 1, Vp: 1 20:01:05 <09gammafunk> maybe it will work out fine, but wondering if increasing the cutoff and having more available combos is actually warranted. on the one hand it will also increase the number of Re/CA/At/Me, but it might improve the others enough to reach a bit more parity 20:01:44 <09gammafunk> can't look at it any more this evening and will likely worry about more basic tournament setup tomorrow evening before returning to this 21:50:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-2-g928a59620c: Display plasma beam damage in monster 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/928a59620cb5 21:51:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.30] * 0.30-b1-3-g2fd7c7d5d5: Display plasma beam damage in monster 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2fd7c7d5d56e 22:00:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-3-gc49c5fa273: Fix: monster plasma beam damage (dilly) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c49c5fa2739e 22:00:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.31-a0-4-gefa6de2278: Show 2x for monster plasma beam 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/efa6de2278ed 22:00:20 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.30] * 0.30-b1-4-g09bf782b1a: Fix: monster plasma beam damage (dilly) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/09bf782b1a63 22:00:20 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.30] * 0.30-b1-5-g8e6c1be481: Show 2x for monster plasma beam 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e6c1be48130 22:04:18 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.31-a0-4-gefa6de2278 (34) 22:35:08 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-4-gefa6de2278 (34) 22:57:46 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-4-gefa6de2278 23:14:46 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.31-a0-4-gefa6de2278 (34) 23:54:43 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.31-a0-4-gefa6de2278