00:23:39 <03wheals> feature freeze soon would mean the options changes wouldn't make it in? or was that never on the table 00:31:38 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4907-g988a294422 03:23:00 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4907-g988a294422 04:04:43 -!- Discord|6 is now known as Discord| 04:52:23 <06advil> I don't think it has been on the table for me at least 04:53:07 <06advil> there's a fair amount that I would still want to do before merging, and I haven't had time to do it myself 07:21:29 <06advil> %git cd70e7a56dccc 07:21:30 <04Cerebot> PleasingFungus * 0.30-a0-1075-gcd70e7a56d: Fix: allow generating multiple zigfigs (8 days ago, 1 file, 14+ 1-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd70e7a56dcc 07:21:56 <06advil> I think this was missing a fixup to you.generated_misc 07:23:18 <06advil> additionally the issue that was just posted is from a char on zig 27, who is probably completely out of luck unless we do a further fixup (somehow give them a zigfig), but the things I thought of seem kind of ad hoc 07:24:01 <10PleasingFungus> oops 07:24:12 <10PleasingFungus> i do think zig 27 chars are probably out of luck yes 07:25:38 <06advil> maybe at this point fixing up that list itself in saves is not worth it? 07:27:28 <06advil> although pregen might mean that any char in that interval who has had tomb generated can't get more zigfigs, so maybe slightly bigger than just this one reporter 07:51:56 03advil02 07[reconfiguration] * 0.30-a0-1141-g9ecb3da153: feat: a `default` directive for rc files 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 38+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ecb3da15358 08:49:19 <06advil> have there been any proposals for a vaults rune challenge banner? on a quick glance, maybe some of the vow of courage tiers could accommodate this, or maybe brute force could be replaced by something to do with it (though if vow of courage stays the same, there'd be some overlap between it and the obvious relevant challenges) 08:51:11 <06advil> huh, also til milestones record potions/scrolls used 08:51:16 <06advil> was that added just for ascetic? 08:51:31 <06advil> I guess it's a game field, not a milestone field 08:53:06 <10PleasingFungus> advil: yes, someone suggested it but i don’t think anyone pursued the idea. it sounds good to me! 08:53:26 <10PleasingFungus> also did you see sentei’s low kills category pr? 08:53:49 <10PleasingFungus> advil: yeah iirc the pots/scrolls thing was added specifically for t 08:56:03 <06advil> yeah I think one person who did was me, but I meant to ask if there have been any specific proposals 08:56:45 <06advil> I've never been a tourney banner person so I don't have a great sense of which the most replaceable ones are 08:57:17 <08nicolae> make a tournament banner for gozag where you have to buy the demonic rune 08:57:30 <08nicolae> if only so i can finally be certain someone uses that shop... 08:58:00 <06advil> haha 08:58:10 <10PleasingFungus> lots of t chat over on roguelike discord atm. i’ll ask 08:59:20 <06advil> I guess we never did really resolve the issue that the shop cost for that vault is on top of standard demonic rune difficulty (and for that matter prevents apport) 09:00:34 <06advil> (although re banners, on my quick scan, brute force stood out as thematically confusing, and for me at least doesn't sound particularly fun) 09:08:02 <08nicolae> yeah, iirc kate thought the vault shouldn't have a reduced monster set, to discourage people from skipping other demonic vaults in favor of the "easier" one. maybe i should just make it cheaper so it's less of an ask? 09:12:34 <06advil> it was also noted in the other discord that no one ever came up with an ignis banner 09:13:47 <06advil> Lightli proposal: "Ignis banner should be “get rune with Ignis” -> “win with Ignis” -> “win with Ignis and 15 runes”, name bikeshedding includeded rekindler, reigniter 09:14:31 <06advil> I still kind of think that thematically once you buy the rune, enemies should go neutral (or something like that), but that seems hard to implement, and maybe still has some of the same balance issues? 09:14:44 <06advil> and it's spoilery 09:14:56 <06advil> (though that could be indicated in the message) 09:15:01 <06advil> it at least presents the challenge of getting to the shop 09:15:52 <08nicolae> perhaps 09:54:54 <06advil> I guess lord of darkness also possibly fits thematically with vault challenges 09:55:03 <03Sentei> my "proposal" for ignis is in the pr 09:55:14 <03Sentei> he takes over the piety category from ely 09:55:20 <03Sentei> since ely would be for the most pacific win 09:55:52 <06advil> ah I see 09:56:51 <06advil> hm doesn't checking out other gods literally kill ignis? 09:57:16 <06advil> agree that ely makes sense for most pacific win 09:57:25 <03Sentei> i thought about it like, ignis knows hes going out soon, so you should see other options 09:58:29 <03Sentei> also for getting credit with ignis for the win, you do have to not abandon for the whole game 10:01:10 <06advil> oh, but this isn't a banner right? 10:01:35 <06advil> there's god overlap between banners and categories already, I think it would be ok for ely to be both 10:03:06 <03Sentei> theres a piety banner and category 10:03:26 <06advil> so there is 10:03:47 <06advil> sometimes I do think tourney rules just have too much stuff 10:06:31 <10PleasingFungus> probably the god to banner correlation made more sense when there were like 12 gods 10:09:02 <03robertxgray> is it okay if I make a few changes in the downloads page? https://github.com/crawl/dcss-website/pull/11 10:09:03 <03robertxgray> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1099018974664081418/download.png 10:13:47 <06advil> those look reasonable to me; I see that you have removed your usernames from the android part, but I wonder if it would be good to at least keep a reference to the one that matches your android developer account name (iirc Medrano83) so that people can see it is legit? 10:14:38 <06advil> hm spiteful 3 is a bit weak 10:15:02 <06advil> maybe we should check what the least popular banners actually were 10:15:48 <03robertxgray> thanks, I'll do that 11:17:52 Angmar (L13 DjAE) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:11) 11:34:05 advil: Hey advil, I was wondering if you were still interested in volunteering to help me out with my request several months ago?: 11:34:15 < ByronJohnson> Hey, could I request an Akrasiac admin send me a copy of my (bairyn) archived ttyrecs? They should be IIRC from around 2014, until the latest online, around 2017-01-04. 12:05:14 <10PleasingFungus> @kate are you ok with feature freeze monday? 12:05:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-1117-g8ee25b8dbc: Increase lightning rod damage by 50% 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ee25b8dbc3c 12:09:07 <05kate> sounds good! i was planning on finishing up some of the overview screen adjustments i mentioned a while back, can probably merge that later today (and then there's also time to revert if everyone hates it) 12:17:23 <08nicolae> why not feature freeze friday. for the alliteration 🤔 12:19:57 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1117-g8ee25b8dbc (34) 12:21:58 <10PleasingFungus> feels a lil too close to release to me 12:22:27 <08nicolae> feature freeze funday 12:53:31 <09gammafunk> !glaciate nicolae 12:53:32 <04Cerebot> ............... ............... ............... ....nicolae.... ............... ............... ............... 12:53:42 <09gammafunk> there, you've been feature frozen 12:54:01 wow, that really comes through great in irc 13:21:17 <08nicolae> agghghg i've been glaciated 13:40:15 <09gammafunk> Banner to god connections where always incredibly amazing (from 0.9 release tournament): 13:40:16 <09gammafunk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1099072129791696916/image.png 13:41:11 <09gammafunk> Check out these amazing pre-god-connection banners from the 0.8 tournament: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney11a/ 13:41:32 <09gammafunk> wonder where the art came from 13:41:51 <09gammafunk> It does look like the first banner-to-god connections came in 0.9 13:42:00 <09gammafunk> !lg * won cv=0.9 x=cdist(god) 13:42:02 <04Cerebot> 896 games for * (won cv=0.9): cdist(god)=19 13:42:24 <09gammafunk> sorry, it didn't even make sense back then in terms of a reasonable number, we were already way past 12 13:42:55 <09gammafunk> 0.9 rules here: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney11/ 13:43:28 <09gammafunk> !lg * won cv=0.9 x=cdist(god) !alpha 13:43:29 <04Cerebot> 896 games for * (won cv=0.9 !alpha): cdist(god)=19 13:43:42 <09gammafunk> ok, so that's not inflated by experimental stuff or anything 13:44:22 <10PleasingFungus> hm, i only see 18 banners 13:44:23 <10PleasingFungus> maybe i'm blind 13:44:29 <09gammafunk> one is no god 13:44:33 <10PleasingFungus> ahh 13:44:35 <09gammafunk> in that count of 19, I mean 13:44:36 <10PleasingFungus> right 13:44:37 <10PleasingFungus> sure 13:44:53 <10PleasingFungus> anyway, fruit basket is really good 13:44:57 <10PleasingFungus> we should bring that back 13:45:10 <09gammafunk> the orb basket? 13:45:15 <09gammafunk> collect all the orbs 13:48:24 <09gammafunk> interesting lore behind some of these early banners 13:48:24 <09gammafunk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1099074171893448787/image.png 13:48:25 <08nicolae> the fruits of your labor. get at least X skills to 27 over the course of the tournament. 14:27:10 <10PleasingFungus> do we have a category for titles won with 14:27:21 <10PleasingFungus> or a banner or something 14:27:24 <10PleasingFungus> that feels like it could be something 14:30:28 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1118-g82af5b777a: Remove an unused parameter from wizardry 10(28 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/82af5b777a85 14:30:28 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1119-ge7184f5f97: Remove unused ARTP_CAUSE_TELEPORTATION 10(27 hours ago, 8 files, 11+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7184f5f971f 14:36:11 <10PleasingFungus> rip 14:44:08 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1120-g291f4736cf: Rework the overview screen 10(3 days ago, 8 files, 139+ 93-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/291f4736cf70 14:44:08 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1121-ga3e7370cef: Add a description lookup for passive effects 10(9 days ago, 6 files, 95+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3e7370cef85 14:46:15 New branch created: pull/3098 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3098 14:46:15 03Medrano8302 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/3098 * 0.30-a0-1118-g842d60afdd: Fix two links in INSTALL.md 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/842d60afdd77 14:47:19 03Medrano8302 07* 0.30-a0-1122-g620db56ad9: Fix two links in INSTALL.md 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/620db56ad97e 14:51:43 <05kate> could probably also add entries on the ?/p menu for the "primary" resists on the % screen, to describe what the different levels of rF etc do, maybe i'll add that in a bit. i think ideally the various passives should move to an enum like status_type and duration_type instead of that big hardcoded list, too 14:52:14 <05kate> and i know when it came up before it was mentioned that it'd be great to have that info as a popup on mouseover - very much not my area but hopefully having an existing database for all the descriptions is a small help if anyone else wants to poke at that! 15:01:38 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1119-ge7184f5f97 (34) 15:06:46 04Build failed for 08master @ e7184f5f 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/4768967475 15:06:57 04Build failed for 08master @ a3e7370c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/4769050947 15:09:01 <05kate> hmm 15:09:47 <05kate> oh, hah 15:10:53 04Build failed for 08master @ 620db56a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/4769067882 15:11:25 <10PleasingFungus> kate: this is awesome! building now to take a look 15:11:30 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1123-gabc949cf19: Fix tag_upgrade compilation 10(56 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/abc949cf1977 15:13:32 <05kate> feedback very welcome! i think it maybe looks a little weird at first with no/few items equipped in terms of the empty space on the screen, but looks much better once you have a bunch of equipment and even more so with artefacts since they can generally actually fit in their inscriptions 15:13:46 <10PleasingFungus> yeah it seems like a good change 15:14:11 <10PleasingFungus> this also changes morgues, right? 15:14:47 <10PleasingFungus> gonna make old logs funny to look at once we get used to this 15:15:11 <05kate> oh, good point! didn't think of that but it should do, yep 15:24:42 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-a0-1122-g620db56ad9 (34) 15:45:10 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1123-gabc949cf19 (34) 22:35:03 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1123-gabc949cf19 (34) 22:45:43 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 22:57:08 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1123-gabc949cf19 23:47:44 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1123-gabc949cf19 (34) 23:54:32 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1123-gabc949cf19