00:33:11 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4907-g988a294422 00:55:15 Fork (stoatsoup) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-s2-207-g4e2abfdd78 02:08:15 Tab (L11 FoFi) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Orc:1) 03:22:48 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4907-g988a294422 05:06:46 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1043-g60ff8d5 (34) 06:11:02 <06advil> hm, cao scoring seems to support a feature where an arbitrary game milestone field could be stuck in a morgue url via syntax like "$cv$", does anyone know if this has ever been used 06:12:16 <09gammafunk> to help with assembling morgue urls to other servers? 06:14:19 <09gammafunk> that information isn't available directly in the logfile, right? so wouldn't it need something like that to make morgue links? maybe cao scoring just uses a simple base url system, but there are definitely components to the urls based on version number 06:15:57 <06advil> yes, it's part of the syntax for giving morgue url bases 06:18:31 <06advil> e.g. you could write sth like: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/$cv$/$1 06:19:09 <09gammafunk> yeah, and that would be necessary since most servers have version-based scheme for morgue urls 06:19:39 <06advil> version is handled in a different way 06:19:56 <09gammafunk> oh, well you used $cv$ as an example, so I was confused 06:20:09 <06advil> yes, it's just the only thing I can think of where it might be useful 06:20:18 <06advil> really what servers use is v not cv 06:21:56 <09gammafunk> I guess cao scoring never supported experimentals, so it's not like explbr is necessary 06:22:36 <06advil> and there's a $1 syntax for v it looks like 06:22:38 <09gammafunk> but a bunch of sources in sequell have the branch name encoded in the url, which would be necessary for cao linking to them as well, but cao doesn't use those 06:23:04 <09gammafunk> only other thing I really see is -spring and -zotdef which likewise not relevant to cao 06:24:30 <09gammafunk> I assume v/$1 can handle being trunk without needing to use a special field? 06:24:40 <06advil> hm maybe I don't fully grasp this $1 syntax, it's not for version specifically 06:25:15 <09gammafunk> some sort of general regexp replacement happening on the url (with $1 being the first group)? 06:25:17 <06advil> really what I'm trying to figure out is how much of a game dict this code actually needs to run on real data: https://github.com/crawl/scoring/blob/master/morgue/base.py 06:25:29 <06advil> yes, not sure yet what it's matching against though 06:26:23 <06advil> one of the things that does sometimes drive me crazy about this era of crawlcode is how bad their guesses were about what would most usefully be written in an ultra-general way 06:31:57 <06advil> ok, I think these patterns for the match group syntax are just matched against the source file 06:32:07 <06advil> and version is always handled that way 07:34:41 <06advil> https://github.com/crawl/scoring/commit/bb1dcda33d725d4506fba4a427ff2f059b13d587 07:38:54 <06advil> what's the story with CWZ being offline, anyone know? 07:41:09 <10PleasingFungus> admin on vacation for a week and shut it down while he’s out 07:41:14 <10PleasingFungus> if i understood correctly 07:41:14 <06advil> huh 07:41:28 <06advil> fair, I guess? 07:41:49 <10PleasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1094633269682770020/image0.jpg 07:42:15 <10PleasingFungus> i guess not a vacation 07:42:17 <06advil> I wonder if it is actually a server that he physically runs 07:42:23 <06advil> and it is literally moving? 07:42:27 <10PleasingFungus> yeah i wonder that too 07:43:15 <06advil> rip Failed to flush pages: 'module' object has no attribute 'monotonic' 07:43:49 <06advil> I guess I still haven't gotten cao scoring to actually run on py3, even though it can 08:02:17 <06advil> hm, this broke something when run on cao 08:04:20 hopefully cwz admin isn't as silly as I am (I run a couple of services on my laptop, granting they're mostly not internet-facing) 08:06:24 <06advil> I guess the inner join must be failing somehow where it worked locally 08:09:27 <06advil> ugh, yes, player_best_games in cao's db seems wrong in some cases 09:06:09 <08nicolae> hooray, i think i successfully extracted the code for opening the rune vaults when the royal jelly dies into its own separate function 09:15:16 <10PleasingFungus> hooray! 09:17:30 <08nicolae> soon i will be a master programmer 8) 09:17:47 <08nicolae> so, how many pan lords is too many for slime:$ 10:01:52 <10PleasingFungus> 27 is a very popular number 10:20:09 <09gammafunk> Very cool. Might set up Cao scoring on cdi for purposes of tracking experimentals at some point. Local Sequell instance is a lot of overhead, but static pages probably works better with your improvements 10:25:51 <13Sastreii> A lot of 27 in there, except for the gods, which are 26 iirc. Should we do something about that?:gloweye: 10:31:59 <10PleasingFungus> that is the plan 🙂 11:14:35 <06advil> ugh, the code for this table has been broken for 4 years 11:15:44 <06advil> it isn't actually used for a lot, I guess that's why no one noticed 11:26:36 <10PleasingFungus> nice 11:46:53 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1044-gdef3eea6ad: Convert the staves of Wucad Mu and Battle to orbs 10(3 hours ago, 4 files, 20+ 30-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/def3eea6adff 11:46:53 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1045-g46c7c7d458: Reduce the Elemental Staff's resistances 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46c7c7d4584a 11:46:53 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1046-g8a7cdbe7ec: Give the Majin-Bo a custom base type 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a7cdbe7ec4a 11:46:53 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1047-g6cb29be199: Rework the sceptre of Asmodeus 10(3 hours ago, 9 files, 48+ 62-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6cb29be1999c 11:46:53 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1048-g46ad940590: Adjust spacing for unrand DBRAND/DESCRIP entries 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 128+ 100-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46ad9405903c 11:46:53 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1049-g6a089771f7: Shorten a welcome message 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6a089771f7d9 12:13:20 <08nicolae> nice 12:13:55 <08nicolae> in wizmode, is it possible to make jiyva live again after you kill trj 12:29:36 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1049-g6a089771f7 (34) 12:33:50 <10PleasingFungus> kate: demon staff!!! 12:33:54 <10PleasingFungus> you actually did it 12:33:59 <10PleasingFungus> the absolute maddev 12:38:09 <06advil> ok, I think I have sorted this db issue out to some degree (it needs a full reload but I won't do that right now), http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/best-players-total-score.html should be accurate again at least for anyone who has one a game 12:38:32 <06advil> (Also I changed that page to be only the last 6 months, and added a separate rarely updated page for the full list) 12:38:49 <08nicolae> one new slime ending down... i think 12:52:37 <08nicolae> hrm. 12:54:33 <08nicolae> oh, dammit, i made a change and forgot to fix it 12:56:24 <10PleasingFungus> kate: wdyt about giving asmodeus spwpn flaming? purely for vibes 13:01:43 <05kate> i left it without to sort of try and distinguish it from the sword of cerebov a bit more, but to some extent it's hard to avoid them both being "big fire weapon" of some sort 13:01:56 <05kate> so probably seems reasonable to add it too 13:03:15 <10PleasingFungus> fair 13:07:29 <10PleasingFungus> heavy also feels vaguely thematic with a sceptre 13:07:47 <10PleasingFungus> all gold and jewels 13:09:55 <05kate> heavy might be good, yeah - could potentially bump up the demon summoning chance very slightly to compensate for it being slower (and maybe reduce the pluses back down again a little) 13:11:42 <10PleasingFungus> my thoughts exactly 13:15:15 <05kate> @PleasingFungus my accounts aren't flagged as dev accounts i don't think but i can take a look at that crash if you could send me the save? 13:15:17 <08nicolae> when you hit someone with it gold comes out 13:15:45 <05kate> (if you can get it easily on mobile, otherwise no worries!) 13:47:43 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-1050-g2766ea1e55: Fix new unrand names in vaults 10(73 seconds ago, 3 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2766ea1e557d 13:49:19 <05kate> that should be the crash fix i think, and explains why there was no crashlog since it was a des validation failure and i didn't regenerate des files when testing, oops 13:54:29 <10PleasingFungus> rip 13:54:35 <10PleasingFungus> ty for fix! 14:03:47 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1050-g2766ea1e55 (34) 14:31:58 <13Sastreii> so... the tiles that didn't really convince the players were my dragons (yaks excluded lol) so i've tried to change them again, this time making them more similar to the og tiles (scaly belly, bigger wings, ecc) this rework should make them even more clearer (hopefully!) sorry for the repeated changes 14:31:58 <13Sastreii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1094736487712559104/Schermata_2023-04-09_alle_23.23.46.png 14:31:59 <13Sastreii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1094736487880327279/oops_i_did_it_again.zip 14:32:40 <13Sastreii> (i'm still learning so at some point i'll probably upload even more changes of my old tiles) 14:33:26 <13Sastreii> (tomorrow will be 2 years of being in the devs channel!) 14:45:13 <10PleasingFungus> hm, interesting change 14:45:17 <10PleasingFungus> the new ones seem much more humanoid 15:23:20 <12ebering> @kate re asmodeus I like the summon demons on hit but had previously thought about making it an rdamn crown that summons firey demons like demonic guardian 15:24:37 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-a0-1050-g2766ea1e55 (34) 17:15:07 <05kate> that sounds potentially neat - i definitely don't have any strong attachment to the current implementation (and demons-on-hit is also just stolen from obsidian axe, although i imagine it plays pretty differently here of course), it was just an attempt to make sure all the staff unrands got some kind of change 17:16:32 <05kate> crown is a good theme for a hell lord unrand of some sort also. crown, sceptre, orb, ??? 17:18:45 <05kate> maybe antaeus wouldn't have one anyway since he's separate from the others lore-wise 17:30:10 <10PleasingFungus> sounds good to me 17:30:34 <10PleasingFungus> also i vaguely feel like wucad mu should have slightly more going on now that it’s the same slot as energy orb 17:31:35 <10PleasingFungus> very undecided about what. maybe an even higher success chance in exchange for higher -wiz, maybe some random affixes like +mp or w/e 17:38:40 <05kate> yeah, for both of them i was sort of wondering about tacking on some extra properties but wasn't sure about it 17:38:53 <05kate> both of them being wucad and battle orbs that is 17:41:01 <05kate> i wonder if it would be too much/too complicated for the battlesphere to be an enhancer for all destructive spells (ie anything that triggers battlesphere) 18:25:34 -!- elliptic_ is now known as elliptic 18:46:52 <10PleasingFungus> sounds powerful 18:47:05 <10PleasingFungus> just put harm on it :p 20:02:40 <08nicolae> whoof, big encompass layouts can be rough 20:37:48 <09gammafunk> rough how? 20:37:55 <09gammafunk> at least you don't have to worry about vetoes! 21:22:01 still have to worry about vetoes from dev team members 22:33:58 -!- jfcaron_ is now known as jfcaron 22:35:02 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1050-g2766ea1e55 (34) 22:57:29 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1050-g2766ea1e55 23:54:42 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-1050-g2766ea1e55