00:14:47 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30-a0-738-g116ff8c4af (34) 00:54:21 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-738-g116ff8c4af 01:31:39 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4850-gd9e8576752 01:57:26 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-1487-g9d985a27d4 04:23:55 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4850-gd9e8576752 05:06:37 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.30-a0-738-g116ff8c (34) 05:43:43 <12ZureaL> has anyone heard from @advil lately? I DM'd him yesterday but he doesn't seem to be around 05:47:02 advil made some commits on the 29th, otherwise not in the past few days 07:07:26 <06advil> it's the 2nd week of the spring academic semester so I have to do actual work 07:08:24 figured 07:09:11 (ex-stall. start of semester was never fun) 07:09:16 *staff 10:15:20 bzbzbz (L15 BaGl) ASSERT(alive()) in 'actor.cc' at line 950 failed. (D:14) 10:19:57 <06advil> !crashlog 10:20:05 <04Cerebot> 24942. bzbzbz, XL15 BaGl, T:22037 (milestone): https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/bzbzbz/crash-bzbzbz-20230203-171447.txt 15:00:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-739-gea05faddec: Mention CBL checking half AC (acrobat) 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea05faddec50 15:04:43 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-739-gea05faddec (34) 15:44:53 <06advil> hm the answer to the issue just opened is the usual *W, but while testing it to make sure this works, it appears that the waypoint prompt prints in a way that's not visible while the map is open 15:45:16 <06advil> and has done so for a while 16:24:44 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-a0-739-gea05faddec (34) 16:40:06 <09gammafunk> makes me wonder what other browser-based apps do when they want to have hotkeys. I suppose the answer is mostly "never use modifiers" 16:42:04 <09gammafunk> interesting, gmail has you turn them on explicitly, but then they do use ctrl/shift/command modifiers 16:49:50 <06advil> it's really only a few keys (ctrl-w, ctrl-q, ctrl-n, maybe ctrl-t, not sure what else if anything) that this is an issue for 16:50:06 <06advil> everything else can be bound, pretty much 16:50:23 <06advil> so I'd guess even something like gmail would just not use those 3 or 4? 17:06:47 <09gammafunk> yeah, looking through their hotkey list, it seems they just avoid those 17:07:23 <09gammafunk> oh, and a lot of these are using ctrl+shift 17:08:21 <09gammafunk> ctrl+b/i/u are the only single-modifier ones using ctrl and an alphanumeric key 17:09:41 <09gammafunk> as for ones to avoid, I think the list is actually a bit bigger, things like ctrl-s/r/p/u would need to be avoided (respectively: save, reload, print, show source) 17:10:10 <09gammafunk> ctrl-j and ctrl-f as well, and this is just looking at chrome, not sure about other browsers 17:11:57 <09gammafunk> completely unrelated, but I find it annoying that chrome allows ctrl-o to open a file, but I can't seem to find this action in the main menu or in any context menu 17:15:54 <06advil> fwiw on mac I do see ⌘O in the file menu 17:19:47 <09gammafunk> ah, I don't have a file menu at all. There's just the vertical ellipsis menu at the top right 17:21:14 <09gammafunk> I suppose a have another sort of menu in gnome in the taskbar when chrome is focused, but that just has new window/new incognito window/quit as entries 17:22:40 <09gammafunk> oh and look at that, this little down arrow on the right side near the window's minimize/maximize/close buttons has a kind of tab listing dropdown with search 17:23:53 <06advil> googling linux chrome file menu definitely leads to some confusion 17:25:08 <06advil> new laptop coming, so I may install linux (and windows??) on my old one and experience dcss linux firsthand 17:25:58 <09gammafunk> excellent! 17:27:10 <09gammafunk> I have no doubt you will leave your macbook in the closet for good once you experience the wonders of the Linux Desktop ™️ yourself, first hand 17:28:08 <09gammafunk> more seriously, it's actually quite good these days for nearly all routine tasks, I have far fewer complaints than I used to, although I'm sure professionals of various sorts would likely have more complaints not relevant to me 17:28:23 <06advil> haha well it'll be a macbook either way 17:28:28 <09gammafunk> dang 17:29:56 <06advil> not sure how much I'll really use it, but I just find doing stuff in a VM incredibly painful; and my newer computers are apple arm anyways so couldn't run windows at all (not sure about linux yet?) 17:30:41 <06advil> I am a bit curious how linux is, I used it as my primary OS while an undergrad, but basically not at all since 17:30:45 <06advil> how it is these days, that is 23:56:32 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-739-gea05faddec