00:04:19 Toady1104 (L25 GrEE) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 80) (Hell) 00:53:55 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-643-g638baaf3f0 01:40:25 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4850-gd9e8576752 04:03:03 -!- WeepingAngel is now known as wpa 04:22:55 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4850-gd9e8576752 05:06:56 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.30-a0-643-g638baaf (34) 05:09:42 <08nlavsky> It'd be great to have a new doll tile for Wucad Mu. The current one is from 2008 and doesn't match Wucad Mu's big tile from 1cd5daa34. 06:47:13 <06advil> !crashlog 06:47:20 <04Cerebot> 24879. Absynth, XL16 DECj, T:35111 (milestone): https://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Absynth/crash-Absynth-20230116-131928.txt 06:47:38 <06advil> !lm Toady1104 crash -log 06:47:39 <04Cerebot> 1. Toady1104, XL25 GrEE, T:73143 (milestone): https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/Toady1104/crash-Toady1104-20230116-070400.txt 07:37:31 <06advil> does anyone know why equip_unequip defaults to false? The main thing I can see is that it might make it too easy to accidentally remove items, but overall it seems like a more new-player friendly behavior to me 07:42:39 <03wheals> it's kind of the classic dilemma of whether UI should be consistent or try to guess what you mean, right? 07:43:06 <03wheals> if you go to wield slot a and realize a few turns later that you were already wielding it so you unwielded it instead, that's frustrating 07:43:31 <06advil> not sure I understand 07:43:37 <06advil> seems like a user error? 07:44:07 <06advil> although that might be what I have in mind by accidentally unequip I guess 07:44:18 <06advil> but the ui seems consistent either way 07:45:21 <06advil> tbf it perhaps wasn't until last week when I made the menu titles all change with that option set 07:46:11 <03wheals> maybe the word i'm looking for is idempotent rather than consistent 07:47:50 <03wheals> also without cursed items and so on, there are fewer reasons to outright remove an item rather than switching to another one, so it's ok if it's not as accessible for new players 07:48:08 <06advil> ah ok, it is definitely not idempotent 07:48:29 <03wheals> i don't actually oppose changing the default, just bringing up reasons it might make sense to keep it 07:56:48 <06advil> one of my goals is to have a one-stop equip menu, and I realized that this opt kind of already accomplishes that (I've implemented something more mode-based though) 09:58:28 <10PleasingFungus> @wormsofcan oh, if you're thinking about tiles, replacing the vorpal spwpn tile with a new one for heavy might be a good project 10:04:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-644-g3898ba8535: New unrand tiles (CanOfWorms) 10(40 seconds ago, 6 files, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3898ba8535ab 10:15:31 <10PleasingFungus> @wormsofcan ty again for the mut tiles! fyi, you only gave one tile for the mutation resistance mut, but it's a 3-level mut 10:16:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-645-gabd8b8bc87: Add new mutation tiles (CanOfWorms) 10(45 seconds ago, 33 files, 49+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/abd8b8bc87a3 10:20:13 where do these tiles show up 10:20:16 i've never seen them 10:20:30 <06advil> in the A menu 10:20:36 <06advil> possibly other places too in local tiles 10:22:46 <06advil> possibly also in ?/ and in individual mutation descriptions? 10:25:04 <09gammafunk> Yep 10:26:29 <06advil> evoking from floor seems prob silly, but it's slightly inconsistent we don't have it, anyone have opinions? 10:26:44 <06advil> I would probably not implement it by default 10:32:43 <09gammafunk> Heh, yeah seems a bit like attacking with a weapon on the floor 10:33:43 <09gammafunk> I guess the wield turn not being a thing for evos is the differentiator there 10:33:50 we already have some weird-to-me do-x-from-floor though 10:34:39 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-644-g3898ba8535 (34) 10:35:00 <06advil> currently it's consistent in that all scrolls/potions work from floor I believe, but the main point of that isn't really tactical actions 10:36:27 <09gammafunk> Optimal wand usage vs thief unique is to evoke from floor??? 10:36:40 <06advil> llol 10:37:17 <09gammafunk> About as close as I can come to an objection 10:37:40 <09gammafunk> Which seems legit but also is it really 10:39:20 <06advil> well, I'm going to move evoking to the menu that implements use from floor, so it would be very easy to enable later 10:45:51 <09gammafunk> @advil btw you mentioned when you expanded waypoints to all levels that now arbitrary numbers of waypoints are supported. I realized that this would allow me to have effectively absolute coordinate system for qw since I'd never have to delete waypoint data, or at least never delete a waypoint for any level, so I could be sure my coords were unchanged when I returned to an arbitrary level. But I noticed there's a hard waypoint index 10:45:51 cap of 9 internally. I don't know that we'd like to have ui for arbitrary numbers of waypoints, but do you see a problem with clua allowing such via the existing api? 10:47:00 <09gammafunk> Really only need a limit of like 99 since there aren't that many permanent levels 10:47:31 <06advil> I think that should be fine as long as the serialization of those isn't stupid 10:48:09 <09gammafunk> OK, I should look at that at some point then 10:48:10 <06advil> the UI makes it annoying to change the editable number of waypoints iirc, but I don't think that's necessary 10:49:34 <09gammafunk> Yeah I imagine the existing ui with its limit of 10 ( or is it 9) is fine for basically all non-robotic players 10:59:44 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-645-gabd8b8bc87 (34) 11:29:42 <10PleasingFungus> advil: i’ve never seen anyone request evoking from floor and i cannot imagine it being used for good, so would recommend against 11:49:14 -!- allbery_b is now known as Guest5185 11:59:07 -!- Guest5185 is now known as geekosaur 11:59:37 -!- geekosaur is now known as Guest3991 12:01:00 -!- Guest3991 is now known as allbery_b 12:53:10 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 13:22:57 <08wormsofcan> whoops 13:22:57 <08wormsofcan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1064640925168582748/mutation-mutres1.png 13:22:58 <08wormsofcan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1064640925508313148/mutation-mutres3.png 13:33:07 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-646-g753c900711: fix: bounds check for knockback 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/753c900711b5 13:33:07 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-647-g452ae9f181: feat: toggle equip vs unequip modes in UseItemMenu 10(4 hours ago, 4 files, 204+ 73-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/452ae9f181e1 13:33:07 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-648-g755734b53a: feat: move evoke to UseItemMenu 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 162+ 166-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/755734b53a28 13:33:07 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-649-ge7f8f89663: fix: improve evokable uselessness handling 10(15 minutes ago, 4 files, 129+ 145-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7f8f89663e1 13:54:26 04Build failed for 08master @ e7f8f896 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3933763273 13:59:11 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-649-ge7f8f89663 (34) 14:17:13 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-650-g4dd8b1dda3: fix: tiles build 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4dd8b1dda3f3 14:17:13 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-651-g0755cc6dcf: fix: correct local tiles evokable tooltips 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0755cc6dcf5f 14:34:29 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-651-g0755cc6dcf (34) 15:32:37 Decipherer (L15 MiBe) ASSERT(!invalid_monster(&mons)) in 'mon-death.cc' at line 1637 failed. (Orc:2) 16:22:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-652-gcc886f7154: Add missing mutation resistance icons (CanOfWorms) 10(62 seconds ago, 4 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc886f71540d 16:24:29 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-a0-651-g0755cc6dcf (34) 16:34:03 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-652-gcc886f7154 (34) 17:01:00 New branch created: pull/2944 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2944 17:01:00 03Aliscans02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2944 * 0.30-a0-652-g644cb795f2: Record Wu Jian's Lunge and Whirlwind as CACT_ABIL, not CACT_INVOKE. 10(76 minutes ago, 3 files, 24+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/644cb795f2c1 18:42:35 <09gammafunk> UI enhancement possibility 18:42:36 <09gammafunk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1064721366881939506/0l34r72dafca1.png 22:46:43 <08wormsofcan> heavy brand and new wucad mu doll tile 22:46:43 <08wormsofcan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1064782802605846578/heavybrand.png 22:46:44 <08wormsofcan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/1064782802912026624/wucadmu-doll.png 23:24:48 <10PleasingFungus> sweet, ty!