00:47:32 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4797-g7d1cfc5502
03:05:41 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L6 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:5)
03:23:02 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4797-g7d1cfc5502
03:25:20 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:25:39 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:25:52 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:12 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:19 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:27 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:35 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:41 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:46 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:26:55 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:01 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:07 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:12 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:18 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:23 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:30 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:35 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:40 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:45 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:49 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:53 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
03:27:57 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L7 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:6)
04:23:01 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L10 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:9)
04:23:11 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L10 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:9)
04:23:19 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L10 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:9)
04:23:29 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L10 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:9)
04:23:35 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L10 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:9)
04:23:44 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L10 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (D:9)
04:32:06 <advil> !crashlog
04:32:07 <Sequell> 24722. Lightli, XL10 DsRe, T:13054 (milestone): https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/Lightli/crash-Lightli-20220927-112343.txt
04:37:00 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L11 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Gauntlet)
04:37:08 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L11 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Gauntlet)
04:37:52 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L11 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Gauntlet)
04:38:02 <advil> !crashlog
04:38:04 <Sequell> 24725. Lightli, XL11 DsRe, T:15943 (milestone): https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/Lightli/crash-Lightli-20220927-113751.txt
04:40:25 <advil> hm, that save isn't crashing for me locally
04:42:25 <advil> or I haven't replicated whatever he's doing
04:43:40 <advil> oh, I did
04:46:30 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L11 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Gauntlet)
04:46:35 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L11 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Gauntlet)
04:49:22 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> the hailstorm hit chance code in 895c20ea242b just seems to crash?
04:53:02 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> oh, https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/068b7645628b has a bad cut and paste
04:55:05 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> (also this hit chance desc doesn't seem to take into account hailstorm's affected squares, seems weird)
04:56:23 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-160-gcfceee88d3: fix: don't crash in hailstorm targeting 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cfceee88d37e
05:05:29 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-160-gcfceee88d3 (34)
05:26:41 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ cfceee88 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3135395161
05:31:00 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.30-a0-160-gcfceee8 (34)
05:33:19 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> Unknown monster spell 'Kiss of Death' cast by test statue
06:44:02 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> oh whoops
06:44:19 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i had a fix for that but it got lost in the rebase
06:44:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sorry… i shouldn’t merge code at bedtime
06:45:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> just should go in the big mon cast switch statement
06:52:01 -!- kenran` is now known as kenran
07:16:40 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Alarming to hear since qw is now very much dependent on this hook. However I could probably rewrite to directly inspect messages. Hook is extremely handy and I think a better design from a code standpoint, if you conveniently ignore the potential crash issues
07:52:32 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> my general problem with it is that messaging can happen at a lot of different game states, where it's very hard to be sure what lua is safe to run at what times
07:53:44 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I did at some point make it non-reentrant, which cut off some issues
07:54:19 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Is it possible to wrap that hook so that it fires only when a safe condition is reached?
07:59:07 <NotCheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-161-gdd60e06945: Fix monster spellcasting test failure 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd60e06945a0
08:03:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ty @kate !
08:05:05 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> btw, think i’ve been persuaded by elliptic to retheme volcanic tap from cj/fire/earth to cj/tloc, to reduce the number of schools in re’s start and to push more toward ‘hybrid friendly’ schools
08:05:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> gives you temp -move because it steals the movement from your lower half and throws it at someone
08:06:08 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-161-gdd60e06945 (34)
08:06:28 <Discord|> <05k​ate> sounds reasonable to me, definitely looks good to cut down the number of schools a bit yeah
08:07:42 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> probably some argument for making it pure cj
08:08:38 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> vaguely worried about making it punchy enough to be worth the downside without being too strong for a single school spell
08:08:58 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> if that makes any sense (??)
08:12:46 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I'm going to cast it in lair to avoid getting trampled by elephants
08:14:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> that’s your g*d given right.
08:14:47 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’d just miscast disjunction at 99% fail, personally
08:22:50 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> tloc more like ploc
08:24:03 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> also does blast sparks need to be tloc?
08:25:47 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> shrug. does it need to not be tloc?
08:26:02 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> /shrug just seems slightly weird i guess
08:26:09 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> dammit discord
08:26:18 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> ¯_(ツ)_/¯
08:26:20 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> there we go
08:28:11 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> it does pushes
08:30:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> not saying every spell that moves monsters needs to be tloc, but it’s nice when they are
08:48:10 <T-Minutiae> Reaver incoming!?
08:50:55 <T-Minutiae> Monsters are not prepared for my 3 school 1 time use self-immobilizing M.A.D. dude nuke
09:24:13 <Aliscans_> Are reavers anything like brigands?
09:39:56 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Not really, aside from both being classes where you'll do a good amount of melee
09:40:52 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> But brigand is pushed towards spells and brigand has a more subtle push to throwing or stabbing
09:41:19 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Sorry,  reaver is pushed towards spells
09:42:21 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> In a way that's a bit stronger than how likely br is to take a Iot more throwing or stealth skill
09:59:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/xp6esa/the_merry_kobold/ they scoffed when i allowed kobolds to use triple crossbows and gave them a +3 apt... but who's laughing now?!
10:07:12 <elliptic> (IMO kobolds shouldn't be able to use triple crossbows)
10:08:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> that is a valid opinion which i respect
10:08:07 <elliptic> (imagine a small species using super-bardiches with a +3 apt)
10:08:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> seems like a simplification
10:09:01 <elliptic> okay, super-bardiches with dex scaling
10:09:43 <elliptic> agree I was underselling it before
10:10:13 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> also lower damage over time, higher skill required for mindelay, attack speed penalties when wearing armour, and probably something else i'm forgetting
10:11:24 <elliptic> it definitely isn't lower damage over time in any practical sense
10:11:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> huh?
10:11:41 <elliptic> both because AC exists and because dex scaling is far better than str scaling for ko
10:11:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> you can't count dex scaling twice 😛
10:12:20 <elliptic> I can count AC though
10:12:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> you can!
10:12:27 <elliptic> also range 4 instead of 2 etc
10:12:42 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> you also already said that (unless you meant something else by "super-")
10:12:54 <elliptic> I think it's pretty fair given AC to say that the damage is comparable, anyway
10:13:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> plausible
10:14:49 <elliptic> but yes, agree I was double-counting some things, but generally it feels like a rather large deviation from previous small species weapon design to give out this much damage
10:16:42 <elliptic> since it's just Ko at this point (rip Ha), could change our design of course - if so, I'd suggest giving ko access to triple swords too
10:16:49 <elliptic> and rename them triplebolds
10:17:10 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> wow
10:17:16 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> that would be bold
10:17:25 <Pinkbeast> treymores
10:18:25 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i have a hard time getting excited by small species weapon restrictions generally. if someone wants to steal away triple crossbows from kobolds, i'll only be moderately heartbroken. if someone wants to do something else with kobold weapons, that's fine too
10:20:01 <elliptic> I don't think they are that exciting (though they do contribute to making small size noticeable), I just find it weird to allow exactly one high-damage weapon (well, 2 counting arbalests)
10:20:22 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Giving ko triple swords is the more exciting tack imo
10:20:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> agree it's weird. will leave it to the e.* devs to sort out next steps
10:22:00 <elliptic> since it is just ko we are talking about and ko has other exciting stuff going on (bad HP, bad eyesight) I could see going either way
12:14:36 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Bad eyesight :wfrShock:
12:26:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> yes, ba has much better eyesight
14:06:35 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-162-g2ba88f6271: Fix Airstrike (nicolae) 10(78 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ba88f6271e8
14:18:02 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L12 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Lair:5)
14:19:25 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-162-g2ba88f6271 (34)
14:20:02 <geekosaur> !crashlog
14:20:03 <Sequell> 24728. Lightli, XL12 DsRe, T:20478 (milestone): https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/Lightli/crash-Lightli-20220927-211801.txt
14:23:24 <geekosaur> stack is apparently corrupt; nothing before the crash_signal_handler. last action is Hailstorm
14:23:32 <geekosaur> sometimes I wish these things had view-lossage
14:32:34 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> this is before advil's fix
14:32:42 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> it's a0-159 - advil fixed this in 160
14:45:16 <geekosaur> guess I missed it. was away for a few hours. did try to scan back
14:48:36 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> no worries
14:48:38 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> appreciate the check
15:23:58 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-a0-162-g2ba88f6271 (34)
15:47:31 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L16 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (IceCv)
16:03:54 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L16 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Elf:3)
16:55:07 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> this one was easy once you see the code but it is impressive how badly a missing return value here goes
16:55:16 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> why is that not a compile error actually
16:56:03 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I guess there must be some arcane c reason
17:13:20 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> pretty strange, but I important a save from qw in trunk into my local non-debug build, which itself is behind trunk
17:13:33 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> crashed with a spell-util.cc error when I tried to travel to a stair
17:13:58 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> going to try with a current trunk build
17:19:31 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I think I got something similar with a save-binary version mismatch this morning? could just be that
17:20:46 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> shame ,really hoping to blame buggy qw behaviour on trunk
17:21:07 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> woah I upgraded dist/gcc and the FixedArray gcc errors are...numerous
17:21:43 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> luckily not on clang!
17:22:04 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I think it just needs a non defaulted something or other
17:22:57 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-163-gc060d6dac2: Add new loading art (Gompami) 10(5 minutes ago, 4 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c060d6dac222
17:34:55 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-163-gc060d6dac2 (34)
17:48:09 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-164-g83d47c8028: Rework Volcanic Tap into Momentum Strike 10(12 minutes ago, 20 files, 45+ 46-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83d47c8028ae
18:10:21 <Cbrotell> Lightli (L17 DsRe) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Spider:1)
18:38:33 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-164-g83d47c8028 (34)
18:59:31 <NotCheibriados> New branch created: geez-louise (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/geez-louise
18:59:31 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[geez-louise] * 0.30-a0-165-gcb0925cd56: Make Banishment cause malmutation on resist 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb0925cd5611
19:04:47 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-165-g1891117ce2: Remove Ashenzari's Astral Vision (hellmonk) 10(84 seconds ago, 6 files, 4+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1891117ce2aa
19:13:51 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> ahhhh reddit's gonna yell at me ahhhhh
19:22:38 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> lol
19:22:40 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> y/w
19:34:50 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-165-g1891117ce2 (34)
20:42:17 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @ZureaL looks like cbro's cert expired again
21:22:19 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ruining my vision!!!!
22:34:58 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-165-g1891117ce2 (34)
22:56:59 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-165-g1891117ce2
23:49:41 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30-a0-165-g1891117ce2 (34)
23:54:24 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-165-g1891117ce2