00:31:03 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4797-g7d1cfc5502 02:49:49 -!- Marqueteur is now known as TorC 03:22:29 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4797-g7d1cfc5502 03:37:20 Junicave (L1 FeTm) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 03:39:44 Junicave (L1 FeTm) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 03:40:59 Junicave (L1 FeTm) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 03:45:58 Junicave (L1 FeTm) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 03:47:14 Junicave (L1 FeTm) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 04:19:05 Junicave (L1 FeTm) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:1) 06:22:02 <06advil> !crashlog 06:22:04 <04Cerebot> 24681. Junicave, XL1 FeTm, T:125 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Junicave/crash-Junicave-20220923-111904.txt 06:25:50 <06advil> !crashlog -2 06:25:50 <04Cerebot> No milestones for -2 (crash). 06:26:00 <06advil> !lm junicave crash -2 -log 06:26:01 <04Cerebot> 5/6. Junicave, XL1 FeTm, T:117 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Junicave/crash-Junicave-20220923-104713.txt 06:26:13 <09gammafunk> !crashlog junicave -2 06:26:14 <04Cerebot> 5/6. Junicave, XL1 FeTm, T:117 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Junicave/crash-Junicave-20220923-104713.txt 06:26:27 <09gammafunk> hrm, wonder how that arg processing works 06:26:29 <09gammafunk> !cmd crashlog 06:26:30 <04Cerebot> Command: !crashlog => !lm ${*:-!ignoredcrashers} crash -log 06:26:54 <09gammafunk> I see, it just doesn't 06:27:18 <06advil> !crashlog * -3 06:27:19 <04Cerebot> 25855/25857. Junicave, XL1 FeTm, T:117 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Junicave/crash-Junicave-20220923-104557.txt 06:34:29 <06advil> not sure what they were doing 06:34:45 <06advil> I mean, their rc file is involved, and possibly still in progress 06:35:00 <06advil> but I can't immediately get an abort crash out of this 09:45:21 <12ebering> was hoping to incorp sdynet's phase shift into wr but again crawl time is 0.0 for me so ??? 09:54:24 -!- mhcerri9 is now known as mhcerri 10:47:50 <05kate> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/xm391y/how_to_break_me_and_make_them_actually_fun_p/ good zot clock tech 10:48:20 <10PleasingFungus> yeah i saw some discussion of that uh. a week or two ago 10:48:37 <10PleasingFungus> my vague feeling is that purify should remove a large amount of drain, but not all drain. but open to other ideas 10:48:46 <10PleasingFungus> very funny alternative would be to ban me^e 10:54:21 <05kate> it's a bit weird to me that drain is used for the zot clock in that way in the first place, it seem like it's being used in a fairly different way to how everything else that inflicts drain uses it 10:55:04 <05kate> just by virtue of it inflicting so much more than any other source 10:55:42 <05kate> sort of but not entirely serious suggestion: make the zot clock inflict superdrain that you can't ever heal (but less of it?) 10:56:08 <10PleasingFungus> heh 10:56:12 <10PleasingFungus> borg hp loss? 10:56:33 <05kate> ah heh i guess we do have precedent for that, yeah! 10:57:02 <09gammafunk> bring back the 1 mmhp win 10:57:15 <09gammafunk> I guess you can just do that currently with borg's 10:57:52 <05kate> you can't with borg, it stops you from casting it when you get your mhp below 20 or so i think 10:58:15 <09gammafunk> oh, had no idea 10:58:58 <05kate> you'd have to be trying very hard to get there i think 11:02:35 <10PleasingFungus> anyway, contemplating what a good number for the mhp loss would be. mmhp. w/e. 11:03:45 <10PleasingFungus> feels like it's a percentage, and it's probably similar to borg's. 11:04:00 <05kate> i think it'd have to be a lot higher than borg's, borg is really generous 11:04:04 <10PleasingFungus> mm 11:04:44 <10PleasingFungus> idk, feels like taking even a permanent 5% mmhp is a real dinger 11:08:19 <10PleasingFungus> it's sort of different between me and other species 11:08:29 <05kate> well, i'd say the consequence of running out of zot clock should be pretty substantial. currently you die if you run out 4-ish times in a row? 11:08:32 <10PleasingFungus> sure 11:13:44 <05kate> i guess looking at borg's numbers, part of what makes it so forgiving is that it's reduced with spellpower, so maybe something around the top end of borg levels but without that reduction would be more reasonable actually 11:16:09 <09hellmonk> Top end of borg is 15%, would unironically prefer something higher 11:18:19 <10PleasingFungus> right now, one hit of zot drain temporarily kos about 25-30% of mhp 11:18:45 <10PleasingFungus> (iirc) 11:18:53 <10PleasingFungus> feels like perma loss should be lower 11:22:01 <05kate> it looks like currently it's a fixed 36% 11:23:48 <05kate> drain power converts to pow/7.5 % mhp loss, for whatever reason 11:26:06 <05kate> so yeah, definitely lower than that sounds good (maybe 20%ish?) 12:02:26 <10PleasingFungus> 15-20% seems plausible 12:05:03 <10PleasingFungus> re that 7.5% ratio, assume it’s for back compat with skill drain (to avoid changing everything that calls drain player), which was back compatible with xp drain 12:10:45 New branch created: pull/2745 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2745 12:10:46 03pdpol02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2745 * 0.30-a0-138-g11fb3acd9f: feat: Add new unrand gloves, the ghost crab claws 10(4 hours ago, 7 files, 56+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/11fb3acd9ff9 12:45:41 <10PleasingFungus> btw, if i ever get anywhere with reaver, i'm vaguely thinking about leaving the unstable shard / exotherm ray commits & reverts in the final merge, just to make em easier to revive later if we ever want em. might be needlessly confusing in the history, though. might be better to have em in the branch only 12:45:47 <10PleasingFungus> actually i think i've talked myself out of this 13:03:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-138-gd9661ff249: Tweak Ozo's Refrigeration damage back up a lil 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9661ff24923 13:11:03 <12ebering> @PleasingFungus idee: give Re sticky flame 13:11:05 <12ebering> it's a good reaving spell 13:11:11 <12ebering> you apply it and then hit hit hit 13:14:47 <10PleasingFungus> could do 13:15:03 <10PleasingFungus> vaguely wonder if people will feel like they need to apply it and kite 13:15:06 <10PleasingFungus> which would be very unreavery 13:18:35 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-138-gd9661ff249 (34) 13:27:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-139-g4bdb1da14e: Borgify Zot drain (kate) 10(4 minutes ago, 6 files, 18+ 54-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4bdb1da14e11 13:34:53 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-139-g4bdb1da14e (34) 13:46:08 <05kate> oh i like that this also gets rid of the breakpoint between zot clock draining you and it instakilling you, just draining you down to 1mhp is more elegant imo 13:46:44 <05kate> i'd been thinking it'd still instakill you eventually but it doesn't really need to this way 13:46:45 <10PleasingFungus> yes, that was a big thing i wanted 13:46:53 <10PleasingFungus> since i really disliked the clunkiness of it eventually killing you 13:49:32 03kate-02 07* 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a: Don't let Arcjolt arc through projectiles 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1020e658ab6 13:50:13 <10PleasingFungus> mm 13:50:18 <10PleasingFungus> rip tech (??) 13:50:28 <10PleasingFungus> sort of unclear to me whether that was really a bug 14:03:24 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a (34) 14:08:28 <05kate> i'd mostly consider treating projectiles like actual monsters as always a bug 14:09:15 <05kate> you can still arc through spectral weapons and fulminant prisms for the powerful tech! 14:29:29 <10PleasingFungus> ahh, good 15:24:21 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a (34) 18:07:36 bakla (L9 DjIE) ASSERT(you.inv[invidx].defined()) in 'invent.cc' at line 436 failed. (Temple) 19:23:23 03pdpol02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2745 * 0.30-a0-139-g99c8308654: remove commented out thing 10(72 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/99c83086546a 22:34:57 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a (34) 22:57:24 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a 23:14:03 <08wormsofcan> @PleasingFungus to remove the kiting requirement, change the spell to eringya's tiny bog: places a bog tile under one random adjacent monster 23:17:33 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a (34) 23:54:21 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-140-gd1020e658a