00:11:15 Stable (0.29) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29.0-15-g675c0067aa 00:36:17 Stable (0.29) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29.0-15-g675c0067aa 00:46:51 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4778-g1c48639af6 03:13:35 <05k​ate> @PleasingFungus check out !lg jejorda2 9769 -tv when you have a chance 03:14:12 <05k​ate> i think you will enjoy it 03:24:10 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4778-g1c48639af6 05:19:33 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.30-a0-58-gc070334 (34) 07:56:29 <10P​leasingFungus> @kate pure lack of hesitation... beautiful... 07:56:47 <10P​leasingFungus> ooh, and they had unid'd resist, even 11:36:02 I think I found another example of portal vault messages mysteriously disappearing, and this time I made a backup save while the portal should still be active: http://crawl.kelbi.org/saves/elliptic-crawl-git-c0703345a7-220911-1833.tar.bz2 11:36:40 around 300 turns since the last message 11:36:51 interesting, I re-opened the save and immediately got a message 11:37:22 ("You hear the urgent crackle of a magical portal nearby.") 11:39:13 and it is indeed nearby, nothing looks weird about the portal... I guess maybe it might have been sealed at some point by a warden on the level? I don't know exactly how that works 11:39:30 the previous time I encountered this was in spider though 11:40:43 I don't know if the save is useful, but the fact that saving and reloading gave an instant message is interesting 11:41:33 <06a​dvil> ah nice, thanks, I'll take a look at some point 11:41:50 <06a​dvil> that sort of makes sense in that markers are all run on reload 11:42:05 <06a​dvil> (prev there were probably bugs with that too) 11:42:52 <06a​dvil> it is an interesting question what a warden would even do to a portal timer 11:43:05 <06a​dvil> water nymphs would be another thing 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-59-gdebd7cae40: New spell: Kindle Blastsparks (L3 Fire/Air/Tloc) 10(6 days ago, 23 files, 201+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/debd7cae40e8 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-60-g08ca5ef3b5: New spell: Cigotuvi's Dreadful Rot (L2 Nec/Air/Pois) 10(3 days ago, 13 files, 67+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08ca5ef3b563 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-61-g522f029d39: Remove Conjure Flame 10(3 days ago, 12 files, 11+ 115-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522f029d395b 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-62-g638e43912b: Remove Corpse Rot 10(3 days ago, 18 files, 26+ 197-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/638e43912b6d 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-63-g4715a6a9d8: Add tiles for Kindle Blastsparks (Sastreii) 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4715a6a9d8cd 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-64-g5f81fb4344: Add UC damage ratings in the @ UI 10(6 days ago, 6 files, 80+ 39-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5f81fb434463 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-65-g421d095d5f: Reduce short sword base delay (elliptic) 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/421d095d5f7d 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-66-gb03bc503e8: Make batty monsters their own BEH (acrobat) 10(4 weeks ago, 8 files, 10+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b03bc503e852 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-67-g0aaa971b33: Show possibilities for faded altars 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 143+ 86-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0aaa971b33ff 13:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-68-g95544447e1: Make walking tomes silenceable 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95544447e11e 13:40:00 ... and 5 more commits 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-74-gb375b1e849: Move hydras a little deeper 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b375b1e84946 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-75-g41f77ac28b: Reduce two-headed ogre damage somewhat 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/41f77ac28bbf 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-76-g189654fd88: Reduce orc warrior damage again 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/189654fd884f 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-77-ge50850e3d0: Reduce boulder beetle damage somewhat 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e50850e3d0eb 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-78-g97a1fe776a: Pull naga warriors back further 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/97a1fe776a50 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-79-gf5932fce55: Reduce orc knight and orc warlord damage 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5932fce5592 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-80-gdb108d344f: Reduce shock serpent retaliation damage by 25% 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db108d344f90 13:43:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-81-ged66197fdc: Reduce salamander base damage 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed66197fdc81 13:46:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-82-g7e3f6f0d8d: Rename Arcane Marksman to Hexslinger 10(2 weeks ago, 14 files, 36+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7e3f6f0d8d78 13:48:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-83-g5a0acc285a: Add missing blastsparks art 10(74 seconds ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a0acc285abf 13:49:48 04Build failed for 08master @ a70db94c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033265995 13:55:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-84-g2fb67d7a0d: New spell: Arcjolt (L5 Conj/Air) 10(5 weeks ago, 8 files, 148+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2fb67d7a0dae 13:55:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-85-g2207dc9a4c: Allow Spellforged Servitors to cast Arcjolt 10(5 weeks ago, 2 files, 41+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2207dc9a4cf4 13:55:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-86-g06a4886a65: Add Arcjolt tile (Sastreii) 10(59 seconds ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06a4886a655c 13:56:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-87-ge63b5e0675: Remove Abyssal Knight 10(13 days ago, 21 files, 18+ 100-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e63b5e067554 13:56:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-88-gbfaf442b86: Actually add Arcjolt tile 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfaf442b86ad 13:56:58 04Build failed for 08master @ 7e3f6f0d 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033279485 13:57:03 04Build failed for 08master @ ed66197f 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033272439 13:57:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-89-ged78777e1f: Fix Hexslinger abbrev (elliptic) 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed78777e1f25 14:02:41 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-90-g26221c613b: Readjust Manifold Assault 10(6 days ago, 3 files, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26221c613b94 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-91-ge63ec12404: Rename Palentonga to Armataur 10(10 weeks ago, 42 files, 91+ 91-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e63ec1240440 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-92-g5c551c10a6: Remove Rolling Charge 10(12 days ago, 17 files, 8+ 347-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5c551c10a674 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-93-gfafb9c0df1: Upgrade Armataur magic and throwing aptitudes 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fafb9c0df13e 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-94-gc3ebbd745e: Add a 'nimble tongue' Armataur mutation 10(12 days ago, 8 files, 30+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3ebbd745e17 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-95-g6315728acd: Give Armataurs Rollpage 10(11 days ago, 8 files, 39+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6315728acd0d 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-96-ga03c9b001d: More Armataur tweaks 10(10 days ago, 3 files, 13+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a03c9b001d0f 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-97-gebf3d55f1b: New spell: Vhi's Electric Charge (L3 Tloc/Air) 10(9 days ago, 16 files, 384+ 53-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ebf3d55f1b57 14:22:18 dislike fast casting/reading as a thing, at least outside of a god ability 14:23:38 aside from balance considerations (which I assume the -20% MP is meant to address), it just feels like an unnecessary complication to actions that otherwise have a simple delay that people are used to 14:25:22 and the interaction with some scrolls will be weird, e.g. if you read ?fear then normal speed monsters might not step away immediately 14:27:18 04Build failed for 08master @ 06a4886a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033305030 14:27:48 (I also assume this becomes the new obviously best species for zigging because of the fast casting, though I haven't paid attention to zig strategies recently) 14:35:38 04Build failed for 08master @ bfaf442b 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033308158 14:35:42 a separate and less interesting note is that the AT abbreviation doesn't match our convention of only using two capital letters for two-word names - it should be At, though I'd suggest considering Ar too for parallelism with minotaur 14:35:46 04Build failed for 08master @ 5a0acc28 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033282128 14:37:55 04Build failed for 08master @ ed78777e 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033311417 14:44:36 <10P​leasingFungus> ar is artificer, though 14:47:34 advil: yeah you can use anything on there, i don't remember what all i customized 14:47:56 <10P​leasingFungus> don’t care about zigs but assume ds is still better 14:48:03 <05k​ate> we do already have various shared species/background abbreviations, another one probably doesn't hurt 14:48:23 <10P​leasingFungus> eh, seems better to avoid when in doubt 14:49:07 it's a little extra confusion, but also we get ArAr, the pirate combo 14:49:13 <10P​leasingFungus> wow 14:49:15 <10P​leasingFungus> the dream 14:49:46 <10P​leasingFungus> re tongue: feels ok for one species to add extra complexity - would be different if it were a mut in the general pool or something 14:49:55 I just don't think it's interesting complexity 14:49:58 <10P​leasingFungus> but i’m not incredibly wedded to it 14:49:59 <10P​leasingFungus> mm 14:50:16 <10P​leasingFungus> i like the idea of a species that burns through mp and then does something else 14:50:22 <10P​leasingFungus> but this might not get there 14:53:36 04Build failed for 08master @ 26221c61 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033325575 14:54:47 <05k​ate> i'm similarly a bit wary about messing with action speeds in that way, decent spell apts but low MP pool might be enough to at least push them in that direction a bit 14:55:14 <10P​leasingFungus> lemme finish writing up the PR description 14:55:23 <10P​leasingFungus> definitely not trying to fast track this one 14:55:54 <05k​ate> although i guess that's sort of partially HO's thing, just with low spellcasting apt instead of a flat penalty to mp 14:56:22 <10P​leasingFungus> sure, a different angle on it 14:56:29 <10P​leasingFungus> maybe vine stalker ends up somewhere in the picture 15:02:04 <10P​leasingFungus> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2720 ok, here's the writeup 15:02:07 <10P​leasingFungus> now let me fix the build 15:02:30 New branch created: pull/2720 (7 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2720 15:02:30 Branch pull/2720 updated to be equal with armataur-hour: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2720 15:05:42 partly I think fast casting/reading is too subtle - it is certainly powerful, but I don't think it's flashy or interesting to build a character around 15:05:58 it's just a passive boost that occasionally helps you a bit 15:06:17 (and then maybe helps you a lot late game if you have good MP recovery) 15:07:21 like scroll of teleport taking less time is probably one of the major places where it matters 15:07:27 <10P​leasingFungus> fair point - in a similar way to how quick blades and other fast weapons can feel bad, in that you get less damage per keypress 15:07:38 <10P​leasingFungus> oh, did you see the scroll of teleport + dark maul tech discussion a few months ago? 15:07:59 yeah, I don't think people actually like running out of MP usually :P 15:08:07 no, but I can imagine what it was 15:08:30 it's a classic chei benefit too 15:08:33 <10P​leasingFungus> heh 15:08:47 04Build failed for 08armataur-hour @ ebf3d55f 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033343982 15:09:13 <10P​leasingFungus> anyway, i doubt you'll like this more, but my other concept for 'long tongue' was that your long tongue is cumbersome and difficult to speak with, making spellcasting/scroll reading slower [and then you get comped in some way TBD] 15:11:23 were any solutions to the teleport + dark maul thing proposed? I've thought about this in the past but it's not trivial to fix without altering teleport balance for "normal" play too 15:11:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-91-gcc36c8f8a0: Remove conjure flame further 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc36c8f8a06c 15:11:58 or major code rewrites 15:12:20 <10P​leasingFungus> i don't remember anything really plausible 15:12:23 <10P​leasingFungus> in terms of proposed solutions 15:12:51 like ideally maybe monsters would always get up until exactly the teleport duration to act 15:13:00 <10P​leasingFungus> and there are some potential downsides (ie if the teleport lands in a bad spot, monsters get a bunch of free turns on you), though it might be net positive overall idk 15:13:00 but I assume that is extremely nontrivial to implement 15:13:20 <10P​leasingFungus> it sort of violates the entire model of crawl actions 15:13:22 yeah, or if you fail to get to the end of the teleport duration 15:13:55 <10P​leasingFungus> i don't know how you change it without breaking the rest of the game 15:14:21 I actually don't know, is teleport still discretely either 20 aut, 30 aut, or 40 aut? 15:14:33 or 30/40/50 or whatever it is 15:14:53 I don't really think about it at this point, just have an intuition as to when it might go off 15:15:05 New branch created: so-hot-in-here (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/so-hot-in-here 15:15:05 03PleasingFungus02 07[so-hot-in-here] * 0.30-a0-92-g6933c1d47e: Add rF- and rC- badmuts to the general pool 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 18+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6933c1d47ec2 15:15:45 <10P​leasingFungus> it's still discrete 30/40/50 yeah, but i don't know that it matters 15:15:54 <10P​leasingFungus> for the purpose of this discussion 15:16:52 so for maul to be guaranteed to get through that you have to be at 20 at least, and sometimes you might be hasted to mess things up 15:17:18 mainly I'm just thinking that maul specifically has the drawback that if you fail to hit the teleport, you didn't do anything useful and lots of stuff hit you 15:17:32 (naga/chei walking has some of that, but at least you walked away) 15:20:14 <10P​leasingFungus> sure 15:20:20 <10P​leasingFungus> i personally am not super worried about it 15:20:24 <10P​leasingFungus> just thought it was fun and relevant 15:20:35 my guess is that it's not really as abusable as it sounds without a near-perfect 3.0 delay maul setup (i.e. other weapons or naga walking are fine) and if we wanted to we could just change/remove maul 15:21:29 <05k​ate> qazlal wrath specifically applies 2 levels of rF-/rC-, so they probably shouldn't be compressed to one level (or maybe it's fine for them to be one level, i have no idea how strong or weak Q wrath currently is but then the special handling should be removed) 15:22:41 <10P​leasingFungus> yeah, hellmo reminded me of that with wrath rework stuff 15:22:41 <05k​ate> maybe the wrath would be better as an ignis style thing 15:23:29 <10P​leasingFungus> i feel like rF-- is a pretty rough pair of muts to get, but really it's not worse than teleportitis 2 or frail 2 or some other two level things 15:23:34 <10P​leasingFungus> is teleportitis even two levels 15:23:56 <05k​ate> it was 3 until quite recently! but now it's 2, yeah 15:37:34 the only concern with rF-- would be it locking people out of doing zot:5, but I think there is enough rF gear and ways to remove mutations that it is fine 15:38:10 New branch created: miranda-warning (5 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/miranda-warning 15:38:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-92-gcd51adbb1f: New spell: Kiss of Death 10(7 weeks ago, 9 files, 65+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd51adbb1fd2 15:38:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-93-g0fba0ff3ce: Switch out Ice Elementalist's Hailstorm for SIB 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0fba0ff3ce8b 15:38:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-94-g895b5eb3fe: New spell: Yara's Unstable Missile (L3 Conj/Tmut) 10(5 weeks ago, 9 files, 47+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/895b5eb3fef4 15:38:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-95-gf5773387a4: Tiles for Kiss of Death and YUM (Sastreii) 10(13 minutes ago, 4 files, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5773387a4f0 15:38:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-96-g54781fea95: New background: Reaver 10(5 weeks ago, 11 files, 34+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54781fea9518 15:43:26 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-97-gd1330822ef: Fix background selection for Reaver 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1330822ef87 15:46:27 <10P​leasingFungus> things i vaguely suspect kate will ask me to remove at some point: - arcjolt going through metal walls - unstable missile bouncing off walls 15:47:38 New branch created: pull/2721 (6 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2721 15:47:38 Branch pull/2721 updated to be equal with miranda-warning: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2721 15:48:51 <09h​ellmonk> i'm asking to remove the first one 15:48:54 <05k​ate> cleaning up beam interactions with walls is on my to-do somewhere already, so that sounds likely! metal walls doing completely opposite things for two different types of conj/air lightning spell seems particularly bad though 15:49:07 <10P​leasingFungus> sigh 15:49:32 <10P​leasingFungus> it's VERY clear that SOME people around here didn't get even ONE doctorate in quantum electromagnetism, 15:50:58 <09h​ellmonk> quantum entangle these electrons in your mouth 15:51:01 <09h​ellmonk> gottem 15:51:03 <10P​leasingFungus> noo 15:51:26 <05k​ate> for the new contamination spell, it sort of breaks the intended use case of lightgrey/white glow - the rule is vaguely supposed to be that using a contamination-based ability is safe if you're at lightgrey glow, and unsafe if you're at white glow 15:51:55 <05k​ate> not sure how to keep that while also adding abilities with higher contam costs though 15:52:57 <10P​leasingFungus> yeah i know 15:54:09 <05k​ate> could just bump its max contam up to 5000 so it's unsafe with any glow at all and note that in the description i guess 15:54:20 <10P​leasingFungus> heh, nice 15:54:38 <10P​leasingFungus> it's also hard to keep if we want abilities with significantly lower contam costs, honestly, since a player could more or less track their possible contam range and know if they were in 'low white' or 'high white' 15:55:26 <09h​ellmonk> display it as a n u m b e r 15:55:28 <05k​ate> i'm not sure if lower contam costs should be a thing though, since in that case it's not doing much that MP wouldn't do 15:55:35 <10P​leasingFungus> was thinking about this wrt the proposal that UC Manifold Assault should contam on cast 15:56:02 <10P​leasingFungus> depends how low the contam cost is, i'd think? 15:56:06 <10P​leasingFungus> @hellmonk absolutely not 15:56:19 <09h​ellmonk> wow 15:56:23 <05k​ate> that feels sort of inelegant to me in the same way that the old thing of it dealing damage when used with UC did 15:58:40 <10P​leasingFungus> hm? 16:01:02 <05k​ate> not sure i can justify my objection to it better than that necessarily, maybe it's fine but i do think contam is probably hard to make work for things that aren't limited to 2-3ish safe uses 16:01:42 <10P​leasingFungus> i agree there's a pretty limited range 16:02:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-92-g82223dbcf9: Add rF- and rC- badmuts to the general pool 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/82223dbcf9cb 16:02:28 <10P​leasingFungus> irrad was 3-4 and i suspect 4-5 would work, but higher than that gets dicey 16:05:41 <10P​leasingFungus> oh, also, after reaver lands (or we decide it sucks), i'm planning to go through books and clean up em - too many 2-spell and 4-spell books right now, esp the latter 16:05:57 <10P​leasingFungus> still want to keep pretty close to 3 spells per book 16:10:11 04Build failed for 08master @ cc36c8f8 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033523381 16:10:46 <10P​leasingFungus> Forcing the test statue to cast Kindle Blastsparks 16:10:46 <10P​leasingFungus> hm 16:11:32 <05k​ate> i think there's a list somewhere of spells to not make monsters try and cast in tests 16:13:27 <05k​ate> ah, in l-debug.cc yeah (with a comment that it would be nice if it could figure out whether spells have a monster implementation by looking at mon cast code, heh) 16:20:10 04Build failed for 08miranda-warning @ 54781fea 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033591349 16:20:12 04Build failed for 08so-hot-in-here @ 6933c1d4 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033532377 16:22:15 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-93-g4cabb3c838: Fix the build..? 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4cabb3c8380f 16:31:02 04Build failed for 08miranda-warning @ d1330822 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033606211 16:41:12 04Build failed for 08master @ 82223dbc 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033656119 17:02:45 04Build failed for 08master @ 4cabb3c8 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033716789 17:04:54 <10P​leasingFungus> it appears i did not fix the build 17:15:44 03mainiacjoe02 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-94-g9ddfead1bb: Permit a Temple map to actually be placed. (#2688) 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ddfead1bb58 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-95-gb3285335bf: Standardize Linux packages 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 19 files, 347+ 514-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3285335bf48 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-96-g9bf192ea13: Fix some paths on AppImage builds GAME is used to set the name of the executable. Define SAVEDIR because the current path is used otherwise. 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9bf192ea1392 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-97-g8c09ba367f: Update AppImage and AppStream - AppImage: Fix missing fonts - AppImage: Prepare files for GitHub Actions - AppStream: Use reverse domain names as identifiers - AppStream: Add content rating 10(9 months ago, 7 files, 73+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8c09ba367f47 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-98-g6869e69685: Configure GitHub Actions for AppImage builds 10(9 months ago, 2 files, 64+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6869e6968559 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-99-g2701b9a906: New XDG_NAME build variable 10(9 days ago, 5 files, 30+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2701b9a9062c 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-100-g921e097f49: Build debian packages using github actions 10(7 days ago, 4 files, 101+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/921e097f49ca 17:17:50 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07* 0.30-a0-101-g3b22beffe7: Add the developer name to the metainfo 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b22beffe76e 17:19:56 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07[brandedqb] * 0.30-a0-103-g27031d1bad: Merge branch 'master' into brandedqb 10(29 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27031d1bad41 17:19:56 Branch pull/2708 updated to be equal with brandedqb: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2708 17:21:00 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-102-ga887aabcbf: feat: Upgrade dk_xom_monty_hall 10(28 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a887aabcbfe9 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-16-g58636de98d: Standardize Linux packages 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 19 files, 347+ 514-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58636de98d92 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-17-g0c53634b45: Fix some paths on AppImage builds GAME is used to set the name of the executable. Define SAVEDIR because the current path is used otherwise. 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c53634b456a 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-18-g78b94b7504: Update AppImage and AppStream - AppImage: Fix missing fonts - AppImage: Prepare files for GitHub Actions - AppStream: Use reverse domain names as identifiers - AppStream: Add content rating 10(9 months ago, 7 files, 73+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78b94b7504d2 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-19-ga2a0f68d75: Configure GitHub Actions for AppImage builds 10(9 months ago, 2 files, 64+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2a0f68d75ca 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-20-g15bd7ebe06: New XDG_NAME build variable 10(9 days ago, 5 files, 30+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15bd7ebe0674 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-21-gcb74e7a720: Build debian packages using github actions 10(7 days ago, 4 files, 101+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb74e7a720bb 17:26:17 03robertxgray02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-22-gd2e5a775d3: Add the developer name to the metainfo 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d2e5a775d3da 17:26:17 03mainiacjoe02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-23-gcbcdbd27cf: Permit a Temple map to actually be placed. (#2688) 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbcdbd27cf5b 17:26:17 03PleasingFungus02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-24-g730ba3c5b0: Clarify effects of Strength (acrobat) 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/730ba3c5b0ce 17:26:17 03PleasingFungus02 {advil} 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-25-gc869ed1f92: Maybe fix the famous serpent's lash mimic bug 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c869ed1f9289 17:26:17 ... and 7 more commits 17:27:27 haha oops, did not notice that commit formatting 17:27:49 wonder what notchei is up to there 17:28:56 <06a​dvil> so, I was thinking of tagging a 0.29.1 soon to test out the new CI stuff and get a few of those bugfixes out 17:29:53 <06a​dvil> I just cherry-picked everything from during t (I think) as well as a few other misc things since then, but I mostly didn't try to read the commitstorm, any bugfixes in there that are 0.29.1 appropriate (@PleasingFungus )? 17:34:41 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-103-ga6dd27ae95: feat: show range in scorch targeter 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 38+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6dd27ae9569 17:36:13 <08n​icolae> @PleasingFungus minor flavor question: the description for the faith mutation currently goes You were embalmed with holy oils and sacred spices and bound about with blessed cloth. Would it be reasonable to try to use other adjectives besides "holy" that don't have in-game meanings (in particular, in-game meanings that don't actually apply to mummies) 17:40:59 New branch created: baudrillard_dies (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/baudrillard_dies 17:41:00 03hellmonk02 07[baudrillard_dies] * 0.30-a0-103-g6326c21d37: nerf Simulacrum 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6326c21d373f 17:42:03 New branch created: pull/2722 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2722 17:42:03 Branch pull/2722 updated to be equal with baudrillard_dies: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2722 17:43:08 <06a​dvil> // TILEP_PART_DRCHEAD, // XXX: does this break save compat..? 17:43:13 <06a​dvil> it outright breaks the webtiles build 17:44:03 <06a​dvil> I guess I can just remove the relevant line from tileweb.cc though I'm not entirely sure what this change is 17:46:15 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-104-g8307c4eb84: fix: webtiles build? 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8307c4eb8443 17:50:27 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-105-g0feb890e1c: fix: fully remove AK from job selection 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0feb890e1c94 17:52:33 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-106-g2fa46d2e7a: feat: Allow branded quickblade generation 10(14 seconds ago, 1 file, 25+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2fa46d2e7ad4 17:56:31 <10P​leasingFungus> nope, no bugfixes in commitstorm 17:57:21 <10P​leasingFungus> nicolae: no opinion 17:57:38 <10P​leasingFungus> advil: oops lol 18:04:24 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-106-g2fa46d2e7a (34) 18:13:31 New branch created: unklob (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/unklob 18:13:31 03hellmonk02 07[unklob] * 0.30-a0-107-g0d58fc6849: remove grunt_zot_stairs_overgrown 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 110-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0d58fc68490a 18:13:31 New branch created: pull/2723 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2723 18:13:31 Branch pull/2723 updated to be equal with unklob: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2723 18:30:19 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-107-g7436db4de4: rework Ignacio spawn rate (#2719) 10(16 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7436db4de49c 18:32:25 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-108-gfa959c11ff: nerf Simulacrum 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa959c11ff1a 18:33:34 <09g​ammafunk> sounds like I won't have to build the debs (ever again)? 18:33:42 <09g​ammafunk> once we tag 0.29.1, that is 18:34:08 <09g​ammafunk> hrm, if we want to install them into the repo though, there are additional files needed 18:34:16 <09g​ammafunk> perhaps we simply don't want to use a repo any longer 18:34:35 <09g​ammafunk> since the old versions will be available as standalone deb files 18:35:47 <09h​ellmonk> does anyone have feedback on hermit's pendant or am I good to merge it 18:35:50 <09g​ammafunk> not sure if we can make the CI save those additional files that are presumably created by pbuilder and discorded 18:35:58 <09g​ammafunk> *discarded 18:36:49 <06a​dvil> I assume there must be a way, not sure what is required 18:37:05 04Build failed for 08master @ 9ddfead1 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033878172 18:37:30 guess I'll have to look more into the files created and which are actually needed by the reprepo (I think the command is) 18:37:54 <06a​dvil> heh CI is kinda backlogged right now 18:39:48 <09h​ellmonk> I should probably stop merging things until the build is fixed 18:39:52 <09h​ellmonk> lol 18:40:09 <06a​dvil> I think I fixed it but we're still a few commits behind there 18:41:31 <06a​dvil> just canceled a couple of things that I know won't build 18:44:37 ok, dcss_tourney repo has 0.29 stuff merged to master, including archive of nemelex choice combos, and on cdo mysqld stopped 18:44:48 I also finally deleted the epic taildb.log file, may it rip 18:45:34 anyone wanting to jump in and do a tourney summary, please feel free, as I won't have time to even start it tonight 18:47:00 <06a​dvil> hm, I wonder what the right thing to do for the debian changelog is now 18:47:40 <10P​leasingFungus> hellmo: yolo 18:48:11 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-108-gfa959c11ff (34) 18:50:15 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-109-g367992a1e3: feat: New early unrand, the Hermit's pendant 10(42 seconds ago, 6 files, 52+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/367992a1e31a 18:50:21 <09h​ellmonk> also would like some feedback on my icy lair entrance, I think it might need some work 18:51:19 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.30-a0-110-g1eb3269233: remove grunt_zot_stairs_overgrown 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 110-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1eb326923381 18:53:26 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-33-gcde29b4e02: docs: changelog update 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cde29b4e0286 18:53:26 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.29] * 0.29.0-34-g2c5f6ef291: docs: update the debian changelog 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c5f6ef29197 18:53:46 <06a​dvil> !git stone_soup-0.29 18:53:47 <04C​erebot> advil * 0.29.0-34-g2c5f6ef291: docs: update the debian changelog (59 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c5f6ef29197 18:58:53 <06a​dvil> !git stone_soup-0.29 18:58:54 <04C​erebot> advil * 0.29.1: docs: update the debian changelog (6 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c5f6ef29197 18:59:19 <06a​dvil> I forgot to annotate and had to force push the tag, hope nothing got messed up from that 🙃 19:02:38 04Build failed for 08master @ 3b22beff 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033886818 19:02:40 04Build failed for 08brandedqb @ 27031d1b 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033894270 19:04:28 <06a​dvil> if this CI stuff works, it'll be nice to very quickly turn around bugfix releases, I know there were cases where we should have done it but no one had the energy to see it through 19:09:09 03advil02 07* 0.30-a0-111-gc067630892: fix: more AK tag_upgrade fixes 10(82 seconds ago, 4 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c067630892de 19:16:50 04Build failed for 08baudrillard_dies @ 6326c21d 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3033965518 19:19:20 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-110-g1eb3269233 (34) 19:33:31 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-111-gc067630892 (34) 20:00:48 <09g​ammafunk> ah 20:01:14 <09g​ammafunk> looks like the debian packages release (it's its own release?) has all the associated files 20:02:12 <09g​ammafunk> hence I can update the repo from those files tomorrow when I have more time 20:02:16 <09g​ammafunk> unless someone else wants to do that 20:41:51 <10P​leasingFungus> @hellmonk how’s this: move hailstorm to L3 and make it check acc 20:42:12 <09h​ellmonk> pog? 20:42:33 <10P​leasingFungus> big pog 20:42:59 <10P​leasingFungus> (you wanted acc checking spells) 21:05:36 <10P​leasingFungus> @advil ty for fixing up my mess 21:05:48 <10P​leasingFungus> i thought of another bufix 21:05:51 <10P​leasingFungus> *bugfix 21:05:56 <10P​leasingFungus> but i think too late for 0.29.1? 21:06:05 <10P​leasingFungus> (I haven't implemented it yet) 21:17:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.30-a0-112-gc3f1650bb9: Fix: don't place zombies without attacks 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3f1650bb9e0 21:33:28 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.30-a0-112-gc3f1650bb9 (34) 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-113-g97b73bd7c5: Rename Palentonga to Armataur 10(10 weeks ago, 42 files, 91+ 91-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/97b73bd7c5c7 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-114-gd83e26d1cd: Remove Rolling Charge 10(12 days ago, 17 files, 8+ 347-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d83e26d1cd76 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-115-g4e92bd503a: Upgrade Armataur magic and throwing aptitudes 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e92bd503a2a 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-116-gb5be5e009c: Add a 'nimble tongue' Armataur mutation 10(12 days ago, 8 files, 30+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5be5e009c2e 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-117-g8f9c91b7e4: Give Armataurs Rollpage 10(11 days ago, 8 files, 39+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8f9c91b7e45b 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-118-g0731d9de90: More Armataur tweaks 10(10 days ago, 3 files, 13+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0731d9de90be 21:33:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-119-ge25a7a0d68: New spell: Vhi's Electric Charge (L3 Tloc/Air) 10(9 days ago, 16 files, 384+ 53-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e25a7a0d68c5 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-113-g0a746a8b82: New spell: Kiss of Death 10(7 weeks ago, 9 files, 65+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a746a8b8229 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-114-g6b915732ba: Switch out Ice Elementalist's Hailstorm for SIB 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b915732bab6 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-115-gbdcf172761: New spell: Yara's Unstable Missile (L3 Conj/Tmut) 10(5 weeks ago, 9 files, 47+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bdcf17276139 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-116-g05c21fa1da: Tiles for Kiss of Death and YUM (Sastreii) 10(6 hours ago, 4 files, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05c21fa1da14 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-117-g0b6d5ae296: New background: Reaver 10(5 weeks ago, 11 files, 34+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b6d5ae29639 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-118-g089ad73919: Fix background selection for Reaver 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/089ad739197a 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-119-gd798118d93: Tweak Unstable Missile 10(16 minutes ago, 5 files, 17+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d798118d93c2 21:34:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-120-g0633ebcbc1: Tweak Hailstorm 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 6+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0633ebcbc1b9 21:34:00 Branch pull/2720 updated to be equal with armataur-hour: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2720 21:34:00 Branch pull/2721 updated to be equal with miranda-warning: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2721 21:38:41 <10P​leasingFungus> realized i’d added three spells with wizard names 21:39:05 <10P​leasingFungus> yara’s unstable missile, cigotuvi’s dreadful rot, and vhi’s electric charge 21:39:19 <10P​leasingFungus> too many 21:39:34 <10P​leasingFungus> vhi is needed to soften the pun and cigotuvi is a great name, so i cut yara 21:40:18 <09h​ellmonk> need a gimmick for vhi wizlab 21:52:33 <10P​leasingFungus> lol 21:53:05 <10P​leasingFungus> oh ok check this out (unrelated): instead of the long tongue think, give armataurs a level of placid magic 21:54:12 <10P​leasingFungus> thing* 22:18:35 04Build failed for 08miranda-warning @ 0633ebcb 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3034683877 22:30:04 04Build failed for 08armataur-hour @ e25a7a0d 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/3034684497 22:34:56 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-112-gc3f1650bb9 (34) 22:42:15 <10P​leasingFungus> same l-debug issue, i think 22:42:20 <10P​leasingFungus> will fix it later 22:45:18 03PleasingFungus02 07[armataur-hour] * 0.30-a0-120-g573df02b2b: Fix the build? 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/573df02b2b39 22:45:18 Branch pull/2720 updated to be equal with armataur-hour: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2720 22:53:42 03PleasingFungus02 07[miranda-warning] * 0.30-a0-121-g5a01a6358b: Maybe fix the build? 10(41 seconds ago, 2 files, 6+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a01a6358b00 22:53:42 Branch pull/2721 updated to be equal with miranda-warning: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2721 23:50:23 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.30-a0-112-gc3f1650bb9 (34) 23:54:20 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.30-a0-112-gc3f1650bb9