00:43:20 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4753-g3cc4eb4eda 01:14:51 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-976-g1985b79f3b 02:04:53 -!- indigaz2 is now known as indigaz 03:23:57 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4753-g3cc4eb4eda 09:29:39 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-1024-gec03ce3624: fix: add a couple of !d checks 10(30 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec03ce3624cc 09:29:39 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-1025-gcb49e86079: fix: fix exiting popup version of the yesno prompt 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb49e86079c9 09:40:02 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-1025-gcb49e86079 (34) 09:40:08 03nicolae02 07[svaults-sfor-sbranches] * 0.29-a0-940-g817bb20cb3: Make some changes to Sbranch Svaults after Sfeedback 10(43 seconds ago, 3 files, 20+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/817bb20cb3a0 09:40:08 Branch pull/2632 updated to be equal with svaults-sfor-sbranches: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2632 09:54:57 -!- indigaz9 is now known as indigaz 11:10:15 <06advil> hm, 0.11 is supposed to be in save compat range right? 11:26:19 <10PleasingFungus> not sure 11:26:34 <10PleasingFungus> the bump to TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 33 was in 0.11 somewhere 11:27:15 <10PleasingFungus> not sure when we hit 34 11:27:50 <10PleasingFungus> ah, 0.12 11:28:06 <10PleasingFungus> but i vaguely remember someone saying that there was some way to port saves from before the tag major version upgrade...? 11:30:17 <06advil> yeah, there was a back compat fix after then, TAG_MINOR_0_11 13:17:55 <06advil> lol, 0.11 save compat appears to be broken because there aren't enough unique vault layouts to build 8 levels? 13:18:01 <06advil> not sure that's going to be a solvable one 13:26:30 <06advil> *Vaults layouts, that is 13:27:03 <06advil> I guess back then Vaults layouts essentially didn't exist, wonder if this problem has been around for a while now 13:27:06 <10PleasingFungus> lol 13:27:38 <06advil> it was probably less noticeable before pregen, was actually intending to look at a different save compat issue 13:27:41 <10PleasingFungus> what brings this to mind? 13:28:26 <06advil> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/1128 13:28:35 <10PleasingFungus> ahh 13:28:56 <10PleasingFungus> i have a difficult time caring very much 13:29:39 <10PleasingFungus> but it is very funny 13:29:42 <10PleasingFungus> so i support fixes 13:29:59 <06advil> haha 13:30:09 <06advil> I don't know if I care per se 13:30:15 <06advil> but some day it would be nice to close this issue 13:30:42 <10PleasingFungus> you could simply close it WONTFIX today 😛 13:31:13 <10PleasingFungus> sort of feel like there won't be a huge rush of other reporters to re-open it 13:32:48 <06advil> that may be what happens, but possibly that should go along with declaring an official narrower save compat range 13:33:30 <10PleasingFungus> you could quote devteam[5] at them 13:33:54 <10PleasingFungus> we certainly could fix a narrower save compat range, but i'm not sure how much benefit we'd get from that 13:36:57 <10PleasingFungus> it's probably fairly easy to say that the binary will give up on loading anything before minor tag X, but would we have to do something with servers? 13:43:30 <08nicolae> ??devteam[5 13:43:32 <04Cerebot> devteam[5/27]: sadly that bug is literally impossible to fix by which i mean i tried like once and then gave up 13:45:40 <10PleasingFungus> not to diminish advil's work on any level 13:45:42 <10PleasingFungus> i just love that quote 13:46:29 <06advil> I think it would be pretty easy to cut loading at a minor tag, and I'm 95% sure there are no remaining servers with trunk games this old 13:46:37 <06advil> for stable versions it doesn't matter 13:46:48 <10PleasingFungus> !lm * alive alpha min=cv x=cv 13:46:52 <10PleasingFungus> does this work 13:47:00 <04Cerebot> 53865. 2021-07-22 00:12:23 crumble the Shield-Bearer (L1 DDFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 13:47:02 <06advil> it will give sequell info but the games are most likely gone 13:47:03 <10PleasingFungus> hm 13:47:06 <06advil> if any show 13:47:14 <10PleasingFungus> that does not seem plausible to me 13:47:22 <10PleasingFungus> !lm * alive alpha s=cv 13:47:32 <04Cerebot> 53865 milestones for * (alive alpha): 32055x 0.29-a, 21810x 0.28-a 13:47:37 <06advil> most servers do some form of force upgrading, so if they are like cbr2 and cao it may be plausible? 13:47:38 <10PleasingFungus> !kw alpha 13:47:39 <04Cerebot> Built-in: alpha => alpha=true 13:47:42 <10PleasingFungus> hrm 13:47:48 <10PleasingFungus> !lm * alive min=cv x=cv 13:47:54 <06advil> though I'm not sure if milestones will reflect force-upgraded but unplayed games 13:48:02 <04Cerebot> 99418. 2021-07-30 10:15:48 hannobal the Magician (L1 DjHW) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 13:48:09 <10PleasingFungus> weird 13:48:21 <10PleasingFungus> !kw alive 13:48:22 <04Cerebot> Keyword: alive => recent ktyp= type!=crash 13:48:24 <10PleasingFungus> oh 13:48:25 <10PleasingFungus> ha 13:48:35 <06advil> haha 13:48:37 <10PleasingFungus> !lm * alpha ktyp= type!=crash min=cv x=cv 13:48:49 <10PleasingFungus> 🙏 13:48:50 <04Cerebot> 422093. 2009-10-25 14:43:58 meneril the Skirmisher (L5 DsFi) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 3745. (Temple) 13:48:57 <10PleasingFungus> yeah, who knows. 13:49:08 <12ebering> !lm * alpha ktyp= type!=crash min=cv x=cv,src 13:49:20 <04Cerebot> 422093. 2009-10-25 14:43:58 meneril the Skirmisher (L5 DsFi) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 3745. (Temple) 13:49:34 <10PleasingFungus> !lm * alpha ktyp= type!=crash min=cv cv>=0.11 src=cao 13:49:36 <12ebering> dang even possible to be played 13:49:47 <12ebering> I guess won't upgrade tho? 13:49:51 <10PleasingFungus> definitely won't 13:49:58 <10PleasingFungus> !gamesby meneril 13:50:00 <04Cerebot> meneril has played 1322 games, between 2007-08-31 17:20:13 and 2011-04-16 12:09:26, won 9 (0.7%), high score 6535978, total score 43695349, total turns 6886101, play-time/day 0:26:28, total time 24d+8:46:21. 13:50:09 <10PleasingFungus> dang, they haven't been playing much lately 13:50:10 <04Cerebot> 98491. [2013-04-21 19:46:39] Halfbaker the Skirmisher (L3 DsAK of Lugonu) killed Terence on turn 1641. (D:2) 13:50:11 <10PleasingFungus> what a shame 13:50:18 <10PleasingFungus> ugh i forgot the x 13:50:42 <10PleasingFungus> anyway, who knows, probably there's some antique stuff floating around somewhere. very likely to remain antique at this point. 13:51:29 <06advil> if it got force-upgraded at the right time it is probably still there on current trunk, otherwise it is gone 13:51:40 <06advil> oh cdo 13:51:44 <06advil> then I'm not as sure 13:52:22 <06advil> I'm pleased to say that the actual main crash in 1128 does not seem to replicate any more 13:53:09 <10PleasingFungus> wonderful! (I assume) 14:03:23 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 14:05:01 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-1026-g659819d403: fix: ancient save compat 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/659819d403d1 14:05:01 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63: fix: correctly initialize seed info for ancient games 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd8c55af63b4 14:15:37 <10PleasingFungus> ooh 14:15:58 <10PleasingFungus> it's happening! 14:20:49 <06advil> those were unrelated bugs actually 14:21:08 <10PleasingFungus> still! 14:23:10 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63 (34) 15:23:32 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63 (34) 15:52:47 -!- MakMorn_ is now known as MakMorn 20:00:36 <10PleasingFungus> @advil heh, 0.26 bug... 22:34:52 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63 (34) 22:56:44 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63 23:13:20 -!- daethoven88 is now known as daethoven8 23:17:58 -!- daethoven83 is now known as daethoven8 23:18:34 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63 (34) 23:54:21 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.29-a0-1027-gcd8c55af63