00:34:55 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4635-gd11b0deb9c 03:22:37 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4635-gd11b0deb9c 05:27:53 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-371-g91724d5 (34) 08:01:57 <10P​leasingFungus> hm, should phial waterlogging stop breath attacks? philosophically 08:12:46 depends on the kind of breath attack? 08:27:51 <10P​leasingFungus> why? 09:09:23 It makes sense that stuff like a flame-flavored breath attack would be nixed by water going down your gullet, but would it make sense for something like lightning? 09:09:29 Or frost 09:10:13 Although I guess you could say that water down the gullet interferes with the biology in a way that it's not a weird interaction with the "flavor" of breath weapon, but something common across any creature with a breath weapon 10:16:20 <10P​leasingFungus> well, the idea with waterlogged is that you're silenced because you're suffocated 10:16:30 <10P​leasingFungus> that's why it doesn't affect unbreathing monsters like liches - they can't suffocate 10:18:19 <10P​leasingFungus> it seems like if you're suffocated, you shouldn't be able to do breath weapon stuff? idk 10:18:19 <10P​leasingFungus> i vaguely like the idea of differentiating it more from silence in a way that matches player intuition, but i don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole of special cases 10:18:19 <10P​leasingFungus> anyway ebering's idea is funnier 10:18:19 <10P​leasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/970735822917759036/unknown.png 10:27:58 <05k​ate> I think waterlogging is already a bit awkward to communicate clearly so I wouldn't be super keen on giving it extra special cases 10:38:11 <09g​ammafunk> I was giving advice to someone that included the trivia that phial would prevent shifter from using dispel breath 10:38:30 <09g​ammafunk> I was wrong, but they lived, so in a way I was right 12:27:02 <10P​leasingFungus> my vague hope is that it’d be easier to communicate / intuit with the change 12:28:39 <10P​leasingFungus> as seen with gamma above 🙂 13:15:44 When my pack is full, using 'o' gives the "Could not pick up a +3 quick blade {shortrare=g} here; ([A]lways) ignore it?" message. Usually I can reply with 'y' and move along, but certain items--maybe always rare items--don't accept the 'y'. Is that on purpose? 13:44:16 <10P​leasingFungus> sounds buggy 13:44:25 <10P​leasingFungus> what is a rare item? 13:44:38 <10P​leasingFungus> that sounds like a custom rc thing - possible that your rc is doing something broken 13:46:08 <10P​leasingFungus> also, when you say that y "isn't accepted", what happens? 14:34:09 rare as in {shortrare=g} 14:34:24 And the message just repeats then. 14:34:24 not sure what that inscription is produced by but it's not the base game 14:34:36 that's why PF is wondering about custom rc code 14:34:57 what's in your rc file? 14:35:38 Ah. I've got a large rc file that I got from someone that I've not deciphered, but your assessment makes sense. 14:35:56 Let me look for that tag 14:38:01 Here is part of it: 14:38:01 # Rare items 14:38:01 ai += (executioner's axe|double sword|triple sword|eveningstar|quick blade):rare=g 14:38:01 ai += (storm dragon scales|quicksilver dragon scales|shadow dragon scales|pearl dragon scales|gold dragon scales|crystal plate):rare 14:38:01 ai += (pearl dragon scales|crystal plate):=g 14:38:01 can you pastebin or link the whole rc? 14:41:12 probably the relevant thing isn't the autoinscription itself, but something related to custom autopickup functions? 14:42:00 that is somehow causing it to mark the item as want-to-pickup again even after you try to ignore it? 14:42:43 <05k​ate> that's what =g specifically does, yeah 14:44:32 oh 14:44:32 <05k​ate> =g Pick this item up automatically if autopickup is on. 14:44:32 I didn't realize that overrode everything else 14:44:32 <05k​ate> i think that's one of those extremely ancient inscriptions that just stuck around forever, so the various ways those interact with newer stuff might be weird 14:44:46 yeah, I remember it being a thing long ago for picking up ammo 14:44:55 yeah I'd give good odds whatever interactions this has with the [a] thing got missed 14:45:27 pastebin thinks this file is offensive in some way and wants me to make it private, so I'll need to do some futzing 14:45:56 This is magus.rc with a few minor changes. 14:45:59 I think what kate said is probably the key, I hadn't realized that either, so maybe we don't need it 14:48:51 ah, that's helpful 14:49:11 https://github.com/magus/dcss/commit/ec854617ef23bafe940c3026ebdd70716ee8c811 removes those =g autoinscribes fwiw 14:57:31 I can replicate this but I'm not entirely sure what *should* happen in this case 14:58:06 `y` could remove the inscription maybe, or ISFLAG_DROPPED could take priority (but that seems like a big change from whatever the original purpose of this inscription is), or the inscription could be removed if it's not widely used any more 14:58:43 there's code when you drop something explicitly that removes =g so maybe that is consistent with the first option 14:58:58 <10P​leasingFungus> i guess i vaguely like option 1, yeah 14:59:03 <10P​leasingFungus> if we want to continue supporting this 14:59:08 <10P​leasingFungus> and this is sort of a reasonable use case, ish 15:04:02 ok that turns out to be easy to implement 15:10:44 Thanks for the help and your work on the game. I played the original rogue and then a lot of nethack and have really been enjoying dcss! 15:11:05 you're welcome! 15:15:46 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-372-g06c70da: fix: remove =g inscription on autopickup ignore 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06c70da81237 15:21:09 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-372-g06c70da812 (34) 15:23:36 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-371-g91724d5b39 (34) 16:35:16 I got a trove asking for gold dragon scales as a draconian, I guess that consumes enchant armor scrolls but it seems a little weird 16:36:52 <05k​ate> it's deliberate that draconians can still get that toll yeah, since it both costs ?ea which they still want to use for their other slots, and acts a bit like the slime/abyss rune tolls in that it makes you go do a little quest and kill some dragons 16:37:17 oh true, yes that's nice 17:46:58 bug report: the yellow draconian "Breathe Acid" ability can damage plants while worshipping Fedhas 17:47:07 (when targeted at a creature and then it splashes to an adjacent plant) 17:50:55 <10P​leasingFungus> good bug 17:51:23 also I've noticed also that acid splashing causes monsters to be distracted, I'm wildly guessing that the damage source for the splash is set to the monster that was targeted 18:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-373-gfac262f: New item: scroll of poison 10(8 days ago, 14 files, 105+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fac262f41bfd 18:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-374-g84a4001: Remove scrolls of holy word 10(55 minutes ago, 23 files, 29+ 135-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/84a40017faf3 18:25:29 Branch pull/2533 updated to be equal with master: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2533 18:44:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-375-g5102b3b: Remove two-headed ogres from Lodul's band 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5102b3be2507 19:15:17 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-374-g84a40017fa (34) 20:08:31 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-375-g5102b3be25 (34) 23:58:17 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29-a0-375-g5102b3be25 (34)