00:47:12 Stable (0.28) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28.0-47-ge53b351184 00:49:06 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4635-gd11b0deb9c 01:04:54 Stable (0.28) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.28.0-47-ge53b351184 03:23:22 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4635-gd11b0deb9c 05:17:16 Stable (0.28) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28.0-47-ge53b351 05:35:52 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-356-g7bc237e (34) 07:30:56 <10PleasingFungus> wheals: someone else mentioned that! i’ve never played nh, but its wiki says that ‘stinking cloud’ is targetable & usable against enemies out of sight, which seems quite different? 07:43:56 <06advil> smh at trying to compare mechanics instead of flavor 07:50:27 <10PleasingFungus> very well. this scroll is NOT stinky 07:50:27 <03wheals> don't really want to think about the flavor of a stinking cloud 07:50:27 <10PleasingFungus> it actually smells ominously nice 07:50:27 <10PleasingFungus> like poison roses 07:50:27 <10PleasingFungus> deadly lilies, etc 07:50:35 <03wheals> yeah it's very different (and also generally useless or broken as nethack items tend to be) 07:50:46 <10PleasingFungus> trivia: did you know scroll of noise’s in game description calls it a ‘prank scroll’? 07:51:26 <10PleasingFungus> fr: bring back noise/lightning/etc breaking mesm 08:10:53 done 08:29:08 <10PleasingFungus> lol 08:35:33 (also can be read in silence, holy-word-equivalents silent spectres, dazed silent spectres aren't silent, turns off other monster and player silence but there's nothing stopping Mennas just doing it again) 10:51:08 <05kate> is there something that the scroll of poison could replace? I think the direction to go for consumables that every character carries around all game should still probably be less rather than more at this point 10:51:08 <05kate> could be reasonable to cut torment and/or holy word perhaps 11:13:50 I'd be a fan of cutting torment/holy word. Maybe they could be split off into a pair of diametrically opposed unrands? 11:13:57 E.g., "good" versus "bad" sword 11:14:18 That you can evoke while wielded to do those at a cost of like... stuff? 11:14:33 hrm, evocable weapon doesn't sound that interesting since then you'd just carry it around to use the special thing 11:32:13 <10PleasingFungus> torment is sort of funny to read-id and has cool interactions with various stuff. holy word seems less exciting; wouldn't be heartbroken about cutting it 11:32:20 we already have a torment evocable anyway 11:32:30 <10PleasingFungus> eh? 11:32:37 dispater? 11:33:00 iirc 11:33:06 ??staff of dispater 11:33:07 staff of dispater[1/2]: +4 golden staff. E(v)oke for -(5-23) hp, -(2-6) mp, damnation (damage = 3d(8/3 + 8*evo/5)). The evocation HP cost can't kill you, directly (but the damnation can!). 11:33:11 <10PleasingFungus> nope 11:33:13 oh, no 11:33:18 <10PleasingFungus> you might be thinking of the sceptre of torment 11:33:20 <10PleasingFungus> which is an on-hit 11:33:23 probably 11:33:26 <10PleasingFungus> you might also be thinking of kiku torment 11:33:45 <10PleasingFungus> ??anagram[2 11:33:45 <04Cerebot> staff of dispater[2/2]: Anagram of Steadfast Ripoff 11:33:56 <10PleasingFungus> ??anagram[3 11:33:57 <04Cerebot> trog wrath[3/3]: "Trog retribution" is an anagram of "bring torture to I." 11:36:36 <10PleasingFungus> vaguely wonder if holy word might be more interesting if it was just a (boosted?) version of the daze component, but applied to a larger class of enemies 11:36:36 <10PleasingFungus> you read out THE WORD and everyone around you goes whoa for like 2-4 turns 11:36:36 I like the flavor of holy word ("blow up the bad things") tbh 11:36:36 even though it's a bit boring 11:36:36 it's a bit reminiscent of Turn Undead 11:37:14 <10PleasingFungus> sure, it’s fine. never found it that exciting, just situationally very good 11:37:24 <10PleasingFungus> if that distinction makes any sense 11:41:22 Right 11:59:30 <06advil> merge and make the scroll of poison produce holy poison clouds 11:59:32 <06advil> solved 11:59:48 <06advil> as a side note, rip CLOUD_GLOOM 12:17:22 <10PleasingFungus> i always forget what the deal with that was 12:17:54 <10PleasingFungus> %git 28adee41743 12:17:55 <04Cerebot> due * 0.6.0-a1-2137-g28adee4: New type of cloud: thick gloom. (12 years ago, 9 files, 70+ 2-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28adee417435 12:18:43 <10PleasingFungus> > It's currently unused, and while it's an interesting visual effect that > will have some great potential in portal vaults and specific branches, > should probably be used very rarely. 12:18:53 <10PleasingFungus> never is the rarest use of all 12:21:56 <05kate> gloom was basically just fog but it looked like recoloured floor tiles instead of having a cloud glyph, i think it did end up existing in some sprints for a while 12:30:24 <06advil> %git a0ae0798b3ff7928 12:30:25 <04Cerebot> kate- * 0.13-a0-2434-ga0ae079: Remove gloom (9 years ago, 11 files, 32+ 66-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a0ae0798b3ff 12:31:04 <06advil> sprint and like two vaults 12:41:35 <05kate> ahhh, how could i forget jory's tower of gloom 12:45:14 <10PleasingFungus> oh, sick 12:45:33 <10PleasingFungus> revised holy word would basically be rift wizard stopwatch 12:45:44 <10PleasingFungus> and it is an official dcss mission objective to steal shit from rift wizard 12:49:59 FR: scroll of holiness. You can't read it because it's filled with holes. 12:50:46 but occasionally a rat pops out of one of them 13:36:42 -!- kate-- is now known as kate- 15:24:35 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-356-g7bc237e783 (34) 16:10:01 <09hellmonk> add scroll of poisson and have it summon big fish 16:12:10 <10PleasingFungus> the trick with generating that scroll would be getting the right distribution 17:01:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[xhe-who-smelt-it] * 0.29-a0-357-g2755b5e: New item: scroll of poison 10(25 hours ago, 14 files, 105+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2755b5eb0067 17:01:43 Branch pull/2533 updated to be equal with xhe-who-smelt-it: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2533 20:33:26 <10PleasingFungus> !log * cikiller=floating_eye 20:33:28 <04Cerebot> 2. ghwc, XL16 DsWn, T:29519: https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/ghwc/morgue-ghwc-20200416-195926.txt 20:34:21 <10PleasingFungus> !lg * cikiller=floating_eye -tv:<0.3:0.3x 20:34:21 <04Cerebot> Unrecognised TV option: 0.3x 20:34:31 <10PleasingFungus> !lg * cikiller=floating_eye -tv:<0.3:x0.3 20:34:34 <04Cerebot> 2. ghwc, XL16 DsWn, T:29519 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.shalott.org or https://termcast.shalott.org. 20:35:08 <10PleasingFungus> oh lmao shapeshifter