00:41:03 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29-a0-43-g62a80824bf (34) 00:53:34 Monster database of quite-the-item branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.29-a0-26-g66b1d58e9c 01:33:48 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4567-gb362bb5a12 01:36:14 <03w​heals> i reproduced the card crash 01:53:37 03wheals02 07* 0.29-a0-44-g72cdf85: fix: ASSERT tripped with targeted destruction cards 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72cdf85f723c 03:54:47 Lammar (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4750: Invalid item: (quantity: 0) gold piece (Orc:1) 04:02:29 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-44-g72cdf85f72 (34) 04:22:41 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4567-gb362bb5a12 06:33:40 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 07:17:36 <12e​bering> ok, it's time to do the most important release prep step 07:17:36 <12e​bering> we need a title 07:17:36 <12e​bering> @nicolae you're good at wordplay 07:30:23 "The Shopping Update" 07:30:23 "This release only includes new shop vaults. All other changes are postponed until the 0.29 release." 07:43:50 <08n​icolae> what would you say are the biggest new features 07:44:14 <09h​ellmonk> Life's abyss, then you die and go to hell 07:45:15 spider 07:45:38 hells rework 07:47:01 <08n​icolae> right 07:47:02 tagline could totally be "We squashed bugs but then they become radioactive" 07:47:09 <08n​icolae> i will ponder it 07:47:29 <08n​icolae> oh, orbs too i guess 07:49:36 <08n​icolae> "creepy crawly stone soup" 07:49:36 <08n​icolae> eh i'll work on it some more 07:56:07 <10P​leasingFungus> The Torch And The Candle (yred & ignis) 07:56:17 <10P​leasingFungus> maybe reverse that 07:57:44 <10P​leasingFungus> The Buggy Release (spider, though note that spiders aren’t bugs) 07:59:44 <08n​icolae> Gosh: Gods, Orbs, Spiders, Hells 07:59:45 <10P​leasingFungus> The God of Death and the Death of Gods (yred, ignis & jiyva) 07:59:55 <10P​leasingFungus> heh 08:00:54 <08n​icolae> Fourteen Brave Souls Gave Their Lives To Bring This Release To You 08:02:25 <10P​leasingFungus> ? 08:04:03 <08n​icolae> rip 08:05:08 <08n​icolae> it's important that the audience thinks that people died to make the game work 08:05:18 <10P​leasingFungus> Spiders, Slimes and Cinders (verbally alliterative) 08:05:39 <10P​leasingFungus> hm, too high concept for me 08:06:02 <12e​bering> Burning Down the Hells 08:07:01 <12e​bering> The Rise and Fall of Igni Zotdust and the Spiders from Hell 08:07:18 <08n​icolae> i can dig it 08:08:42 <03w​heals> Is the Torch Worth the Candle? 08:14:59 <10P​leasingFungus> heh 08:32:40 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-45-g69f475c709 (34) 08:32:55 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-45-g69f475c: docs: changelog updates 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 41+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/69f475c709b7 09:11:19 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-46-ge7567d4: fix: fix a rounding issue in webtiles bars 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7567d4e0571 09:13:03 <09g​ammafunk> wow, fix: fix.. ? 09:13:15 <09g​ammafunk> has commit title technology gone too far 09:14:34 seen that a few times so far 09:14:57 wait for fixup! fixup! fix: fixup! fix …. 09:17:27 <06a​dvil> yeah, I know 09:18:58 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-46-ge7567d4e05 (34) 09:18:58 <06a​dvil> sometimes I try to find a synonym, or just don't write a full sentence 09:18:58 <06a​dvil> not sure what is the conventional commit way 09:19:36 <09g​ammafunk> yeah, my intuition is fix: a rounding issue in webtiles bars but I suppose it really doesn't matter unless you're trying to stay under e.g. 50 chars and having trouble 09:21:26 <09g​ammafunk> have to say, that fix advil made a while back where crashes in e.g. &P no longer cause the game to re-crash when the save is reloaded, that's the best thing ever 09:22:39 <06a​dvil> heh glad to hear it 09:28:22 <06a​dvil> hm, has anyone heard about issues like https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12668 ? (where apparently the action panel settings ui just isn't working) 09:31:50 <10P​leasingFungus> i have not 09:31:56 <10P​leasingFungus> well, i guess now i have 10:02:14 <06a​dvil> lol at the trogdor quoute on draconians, good work whoever this was 10:02:21 <06a​dvil> (well, I assume it was probably nicolae) 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-47-g6705b9c: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6705b9cb7ded 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-48-g14386d3: feat: Update a Depths mummy-themed vault 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 24+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14386d3767a1 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-49-g695ac6b: feat: Update a troll-themed float vault 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 15+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/695ac6beb5b0 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-50-g0f297ca: feat: Update placement of a float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0f297cac127a 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-51-g05b2614: feat: Update a fire-themed float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 34+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05b2614ef281 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-52-gf436032: fix: Clean up syntax of a float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f43603266131 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-53-gc803637: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8036373801c 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-54-g10b4fd4: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 37+ 46-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10b4fd4adab9 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-55-g727057a: fix: Wrap a DES line 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/727057aadf04 10:02:37 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-56-g292b7df: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 41+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/292b7dfcfe97 10:02:37 ... and 2 more commits 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-26-g2c4a7e8: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c4a7e86ef32 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-27-g0512289: feat: Update a Depths mummy-themed vault 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 24+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0512289e53d9 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-28-gd3c45a2: feat: Update a troll-themed float vault 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 15+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d3c45a2c5eab 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-29-g297f97a: feat: Update placement of a float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/297f97a01fff 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-30-geec5de5: feat: Update a fire-themed float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 34+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eec5de58b6b0 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-31-g6963155: fix: Clean up syntax of a float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6963155d10a1 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-32-g587d704: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/587d7044b4ee 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-33-geac85a3: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 37+ 46-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eac85a351d12 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-34-g03d5dd1: fix: Wrap a DES line 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/03d5dd107523 10:02:44 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-35-gefac9cf: feat: Update a Depths float vault 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 41+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/efac9cf2d3e8 10:02:44 ... and 2 more commits 10:10:22 <10P​leasingFungus> advil: actually, galehar in 2013! 10:10:39 <06a​dvil> haha nice 10:10:45 <06a​dvil> should read quotes more 10:14:13 <09g​ammafunk> sent hong an email with tourney details and asked dilly in discord to post a reminder if he can, so hopefully he's able to get that installed 10:14:31 <09g​ammafunk> @advil are you ok with installing 0.28 on CAO by, say, tomorrow? 10:15:49 <06a​dvil> I can try to do it this afternoon 10:15:49 <09g​ammafunk> cool, let me know if there's a problem, I can try tomorrow morning if so 10:17:47 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-58-ga2763057c1 (34) 10:19:07 <09g​ammafunk> ??servers 10:19:08 <04C​erebot> servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cbro}, {cko}; EU: {CXC} {CDO}, {cue}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 10:19:22 <09g​ammafunk> !learn edit servers s/cbro/cbr2/ 10:19:23 <04C​erebot> Use: !learn edit servers[NUM] s/// 10:19:32 !learn edit servers[1] s/cbro/cbr2/ 10:19:33 servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cbr2}, {cko}; EU: {CXC} {CDO}, {cue}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 10:22:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-58-ga276305 (34) 10:30:00 ok, sequell updated with tournament data as well 10:30:02 !time 10:30:02 Time: Feb 02, 2022, 05:30:02 PM, UTC. The 2022 0.28 tournament starts in 2 days, 2 hours, 29 minutes and 57 seconds. 10:30:11 <12e​bering> in terms of release timing and making sure we have a uniform version across the servers I'd like to try to do one final round of bugfixing/cherry picking today and release this north american evening if that's ok with everyone 10:30:16 !lg * file~~28 s=file 10:30:17 7933 games for * (file~~28): 3980x cko/crawl/meta/0.28/logfile, 1845x cbr2/meta/0.28/logfile, 1479x cue/crawl/meta/0.28/logfile, 426x cpo/dcss-logfile-0.28, 203x cxc/crawl/meta/0.28/logfile 10:30:18 <12e​bering> (also I have time to do that today but not after) 10:31:41 <06a​dvil> hm, that seems like good timing in terms of getting things on the servers, but afaik no one knew about that target so I'm certainly not sure I can make it 10:32:30 yeah, one aspect of doing that is that we'll for sure have servers (beyond CWZ) missing 0.28 at time of release 10:33:01 I will have time to do final release tomorrow morning, fwiw, if you wanted to just do bug fixes and cherry-picking by this evening and leave actual release till then 10:33:22 but I'm not sure if servers missing 0.28 (specifically CAO, CDO, LLD, CWZ) is a huge deal 10:34:58 <06a​dvil> I think ebering's idea might be that if we do the release before cwz updates, it'll actually get it 10:34:58 <12e​bering> yes 10:34:58 <12e​bering> that is exactly my idea 10:34:58 yeah, but at the same time the formal tagging doesn't matter in terms of cwz 10:34:58 just getting fixes in 10:35:03 <12e​bering> yeah, that's the priority for sure 10:35:19 <12e​bering> the other part of the idea is that the release announcement serves as a reminder that the t is coming 10:35:29 <12e​bering> and I want to give it some time to percolate through various communities 10:36:28 you did just do an announcment, but I guess we do have to save the roguelikes reddit one for the actual release 10:36:54 I don't have any real objections to release today, all that said 10:37:03 <12e​bering> it's all about getting the engagement numbers up 10:37:15 <12e​bering> I've got metrics and a/b testing and social campaigns like you wouldn't believe!!!!! 10:37:25 sounds like we're selling out 10:37:30 so it's probably time to talk about giving me a pay raise 10:37:42 <12e​bering> you get 300% of your current 0 10:37:52 <12e​bering> I'll go as high as 400% but not higher 10:38:59 <10P​leasingFungus> i’ll take a humble 270% 10:43:08 <09g​ammafunk> went ahead and made a tavern post on the dartboard 10:43:41 <09g​ammafunk> I think that's all the basic setup we can do now, going to run taildb overnight just to see if we get any weird bugs/crashes in the scripts 10:45:56 <06a​dvil> lol, this quicksilver bolt bug is a good one. The way the webtiles spell code apparently works, it builds a full description, and then regenerates the entire book description in string form and removes it from the description panel before sending the text to webtiles with a simple replace_all. But chaos spells (incl quicksilver bolt) randomize some colors, so the book description doesn't match 10:47:51 <06a​dvil> (I actually thought I looked at something with these randomized colors not too long ago and it was ok in webtiles then?) 10:50:59 <10P​leasingFungus> oh boy 10:51:18 <10P​leasingFungus> lazy fix is to make those spells not randomize colors, or at least not in webtiles builds 10:51:31 <06a​dvil> I was looking if it was possible to only generate the string once 10:51:32 <10P​leasingFungus> there's no real reason for them to randomize colors, other than that it seemed fun 10:51:35 <10P​leasingFungus> yeah that works too 10:52:21 <06a​dvil> there's no way this can have worked recently, I guess I was looking at console 11:20:01 <06a​dvil> heh, my other lazy idea of just manipulating rng state might not work because I was so careful to keep ui-oriented rng separate from everything else, it's hard to override 11:26:44 <10P​leasingFungus> heh 11:27:11 <10P​leasingFungus> let me look at this for a second 11:28:30 <06a​dvil> I have a solution I think 11:28:31 <10P​leasingFungus> hm, can we just do something as simple as passing true to element_colour (describe-spells.cc:445) if we're in a webtiles build? 11:28:33 <10P​leasingFungus> ah, ok 11:28:40 <10P​leasingFungus> will leave it to you 🙂 11:29:01 <06a​dvil> it's less lazy than just turning off randomization, but still hacky enough to do quickly 11:29:12 <10P​leasingFungus> you gotta have at least a lil hackiness 11:50:02 <06a​dvil> hm, one thing I haven't done yet is double check if the hover stuff even works in windows console 11:50:22 <06a​dvil> although I think I did test it on windows console with the initial implementation 11:50:31 <06a​dvil> 2 versions ago or whenever that was 12:00:04 <06a​dvil> oops, forgot to mark the issue 12:02:24 that quicksilver bolt bug is cool 12:02:29 I like it 12:03:48 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-59-gdf0a5da: fix: handle webtiles spellset parsing a bit better 10(11 minutes ago, 3 files, 46+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df0a5da549d6 12:09:09 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-59-gdf0a5da549 (34) 12:17:53 it's too late to PR a doubling of the shield penalty based on size? 12:18:10 differences between species in that regard seem to have gone way down 12:19:41 <12e​bering> It's never too late but that won't get merged in 0.28 12:20:26 oh, PF's torch and candle - sounds kinda like "bell, book, and candle", the nethack / catholic ritual 12:20:31 Orb, Torch, and Candle? 12:20:46 mb bit obscure 12:23:04 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-60-g2e2478e: fix: handle a few more numpad keys in menus 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2e2478e39061 12:24:52 Yermak: (sorry, switching channels) you reported that scorch doesn't work with autofight, and I didn't spot an explicit fix for this, but it seems ok with `p` (CMD_AUTOFIRE) 12:25:10 alternatively if someone knows they did look at this we can just close the mantis report 12:26:33 <12e​bering> oh, while on mantis reports I have the yara's prompt done 12:26:43 <12e​bering> (I guess we need some bug atc so we don't dupe effort) 12:32:47 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-60-g2e2478e390 (34) 12:46:41 <03w​heals> advil, isn't the second part of that commit unnecessary because useitemmenu inherits from invmenu? or does selection not go through getkey 12:50:01 <06a​dvil> I think the latter; it definitely wasn't working before I fixed it and I looked at that after the getkey change 12:50:20 <06a​dvil> yeah, vector sel = menu.show(true); int keyin = menu.getkey(); 12:51:13 <06a​dvil> getkey() is just an InvMenu thing, where selection is still handled by Menu 12:52:52 <06a​dvil> I guess if we keep this pattern long-run it might work better if getkey is an override and some of that key handling goes in the superclass, but I'm not very happy with this way of handling numpad keys so I was viewing that just as a quick fix 13:00:04 <05k​ate> hmm, someone on reddit points out that channeling with wucad mu at 27 evo triggers channeling on every single spellcast and has more than a 99% chance of not backfiring, it's not clear to me what the intended formula is supposed to do but that doesn't seem like how it should work 13:00:39 epic 13:02:50 <05k​ate> obviously 27 evo is excessive but that seems like the wrong place for the ceiling to be, orb of energy alone also ends up triggering on 50% of spellcasts with only a 5% backfire rate at most 13:02:50 <10P​leasingFungus> does seem a bit much 13:02:50 <10P​leasingFungus> do also think energy orb is a bit too actively bad at low evo 13:04:43 <06a​dvil> oops, I think I broke monsters without spells 13:05:50 <05k​ate> unclear what the right fix is for energy but i think wucad mu making your spells effectively free at the top end is probably worth a 0.28 fix at least, probably sources shouldn't stack to reduce backfire chance at the very minimum 13:08:02 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-61-g9d6eb31: fix: account for guile in ctouch display (dilly) 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9d6eb3106724 13:08:02 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-62-g0a91294: fix: don't double prompt for monsters with Yara's (12669) 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a91294c2cb7 13:08:02 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-63-g28f407b: fix: inform the player that using yaras on fedhas summons doesn't work (12670) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28f407b12d52 13:14:28 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-64-g139f01a: fix: scroll more sanely in webtiles 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/139f01a7f825 13:14:28 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-65-g3f3a666: fix: further issues with non-casting monster descriptions 10(66 seconds ago, 2 files, 15+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3f3a6665230b 13:16:05 <12e​bering> Making the backfire chance independent of the number of stacks is a good start yeah 13:16:07 <05k​ate> my quick and dirty wucad mu suggestion would be to make it be worth 1.5 sources of channeling instead of 2 (so it caps out at 75% chance to trigger instead of 100%) and remove the stacking effect of sources on the backfire rate (so it caps out at 95% success instead of ~99.9%), which still probably isn't ideal but i think the formulae would need a more extensive rework to really get it into a better place and have regular orbs be a bit 13:16:08 better at low skill too 13:16:33 <12e​bering> Sounds good to me 13:17:31 <10P​leasingFungus> iirc hellmonk suggested tossing the confuse backfire and just keeping the int drain backfire, which seems plausiblish. not for 0.28 tho 13:18:27 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-65-g3f3a666523 (34) 13:18:47 ??wucad 13:18:47 wucad mu[1/4]: An unrandart +9 {magical staff} that refunds the MP of a cast spell with a chance of evocations_skill / 81, maxing out at 33% with 27 Evocations. If successful, it also has a chance to cause either 2-5 turns of confusion or 1-5 int drain. The chance of this is 1 / (evocations_skill - spell_mp_cost). 13:18:50 I assume that's out of date? 13:19:31 <05k​ate> also i appreciated the post that reported this starting with 4 paragraphs of fanfic. imo all bug reports should use this format: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/siw4c3/the_tale_of_ivan_the_ancient_lich_aka_mp_refund/ 13:25:36 Strong agree 13:28:27 oh, the reddit sidebar needs updating to point to #crawl on libera instead of ##crawl on freenode 13:29:07 <05k​ate> (also i haven't been around much because i just moved, but thanks everyone who's been doing all the 0.28 release stuff! i don't have any release name ideas but i feel like ignis is probably like, the most immediately noticeable exciting new thing to come up with a name around) 13:29:41 <05k​ate> alternatively can squeeze in hells and spider with a promise of the transdimensional hellspider somehow 13:32:52 <12e​bering> My unordered top 3 from the brainstorm earlier are: The Rise and Fall of Ignis Zotdust and the Spiders from Hell Orb, Torch, and Candle Is the Torch worth the Candle? 13:32:53 Arachne's Hells & The Dying God 13:33:05 Ziggy Stardust is very good 13:35:05 perryprog: sidebar looks correct to me, at least on newreddit 13:35:22 oh, most be oldreddit that's out of date 13:35:22 oldreddit is more amalloy's province 13:35:44 Weird, I thought old/new reddit sidebars used to be synchronized. I guess they got rid of that when they added the new fancy stuff. 13:38:09 re: title. "Yred the butcher, Jiyva the backer, and Ignis the candlestick maker" 13:38:52 (Three gods in a tub) 13:46:26 03kate-02 07* 0.29-a0-66-gb207118: Reduce Wucad Mu's channeling effectiveness (atomjack) 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b207118a1a4a 13:46:31 03kate-02 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-38-gff268fd: Reduce Wucad Mu's channeling effectiveness (atomjack) 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ff268fdeb9be 13:47:13 New branch created: pull/2398 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2398 13:47:14 03Chris Landry02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2398 * 0.28-a0-1639-gc30ce2f: acquirement can now weight base class types 10(8 days ago, 5 files, 270+ 83-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c30ce2f9b34b 13:47:41 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-66-gb207118a1a (34) 13:52:11 I assume this has been suggested before, but would it be reasonable for ?brand weapon to reroll on any brand that a weapon has had within its last three brands? 13:58:06 <10P​leasingFungus> sounds complicated and surprising 13:58:16 <10P​leasingFungus> don’t know of it being suggested before 13:58:43 <10P​leasingFungus> i don’t think it’s a design goal for bw to allow you to choose the brand you get 13:58:55 yeah fair enough 14:00:33 it's rare enough that you roll a-b-a with three reads anyway 14:05:44 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-67-g1d65ae1: fix: handle webtiles SIGHUP messaging differently 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d65ae1bb44c 14:06:57 -!- kate-- is now known as kate- 14:17:39 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-67-g1d65ae1bb4 (34) 14:26:14 Stable (0.28) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-b1-38-gff268fdeb9 14:26:14 <06a​dvil> @nicolae seen on roguelikes discord 14:26:14 <06a​dvil> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/938545681881235476/Screen_Shot_2022-02-02_at_4.23.32_PM.png 14:26:14 <08n​icolae> lol nice 14:28:39 yeah i've seen that shop too 14:28:47 i was hoping it sometimes sells something else 14:32:41 <06a​dvil> I think it can sell anything? 14:32:41 <06a​dvil> well, any item that can appear in a general store, which it technically is 14:32:53 <06a​dvil> yeah, I just placed it a bunch and it gets all sorts of stuff 14:36:25 <03w​heals> i like that based on that screenshot it could also be an alphashop 14:46:19 oh, i see 14:46:23 i, too, got rocks 14:46:39 maybe that's just the highest chance item in gen shops? 14:48:31 !vault nicolae_specific_store 14:48:32 Can't find nicolae_specific_store. 14:48:43 !source shops.des:1424 14:48:44 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/shops.des#L1424 14:49:34 must be, spicyCebolla 14:58:21 those mayhem and destruction shops are really neat, they've got a strong theme 15:00:05 yani - "art" and "craft" shop, themed around being artful and crafty. mirror, burglary book, fog scrolls, charm wand, simulacrum (it's a crafted homunculus sorta) 15:12:20 is charm wand a thing any more? 15:12:39 <12e​bering> yes 15:29:14 <10P​leasingFungus> got renamed from enslavement 15:29:18 <10P​leasingFungus> still kickin 15:30:21 Stable (0.28) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28-b1-38-gff268fd 15:31:34 Add wand of smiles when 15:36:25 I just looked up wand of smiles in Xanathar's guide and apparently whenever it recharges every morning you roll a D20 and on a 1 it turns into a wand of scowls; lol 15:36:40 And wand of scowls has the same thing but into a wand of smiles 15:48:12 cao should be ready to go, just needs a restart -- maybe I'll hold off on that 15:51:22 after wands became a stacking thing the charges were kinda endless... charm seems actually rare now, appropriately 15:51:28 could imagine playing a game and not seeing one 16:15:18 -!- stella is now known as aoeixsz4 16:23:46 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-67-g1d65ae1bb4 (34) 17:24:18 interesting bug—looks like chat that shows up in milestones runs through the color parser thing and will error out if its invalid (see turn 6253 of https://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Sapher/morgue-Sapher-20210612-102449.txt) 17:24:18 just ends up as an extra string on the end of the milestone log 17:25:11 also some weird stuff at the end: "ЗалеÐ" 18:15:47 <09h​ellmonk> assuming the intent for nightstalker is to give the equivalent to 1 stealth pip at level 3, it is currently bugged in a very funny way to give exactly 2 stealth less than that 18:15:57 <06a​dvil> it looks like the chat messages just aren't escaped properly 18:16:23 <06a​dvil> the weird stuff might be something that would render in a different encoding, e.g. cyrillic 18:18:20 oh, that would make more sense 18:18:35 and yeah, figured the latter was an encoding issue 19:04:42 <06a​dvil> oh huh, I guess we did generate artifacts for the beta tag 19:05:25 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-68-ge7179d3: fix: adjust mouse hover suppress timing (ebering) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7179d36ccb5 19:17:40 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-68-ge7179d36cc (34) 19:17:55 <12e​bering> @advil ah the mouse 19:20:17 <06a​dvil> @ebering can you see if the tiles artifact here works for you: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/releases/tag/0.28-b1 19:20:31 <12e​bering> Works in which sense? 19:20:35 <06a​dvil> I can get it to run on an intel on mojave, but not an M1 on big sur 19:20:54 <06a​dvil> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/938620027777740830/Screen_Shot_2022-02-02_at_9.20.48_PM.png 19:21:19 <06a​dvil> it seems to be a 64 bit build, really not sure why rosetta isn't working (if that's what's happening) 19:21:29 <06a​dvil> previous actions artifacts have worked fine on this machine 19:21:44 <06a​dvil> well, modulo gatekeeper issues, which get worse every version 19:23:25 <06a​dvil> also, I wonder if anyone is on windows and can try to replicate https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/2399, it doesn't happen on mac (that's why I was trying to run the beta version) 19:24:18 <12e​bering> I’ll try when I get home. If it’s a Rosetta issue I can send it to my pal who was the lead on Rosetta 2 19:30:11 <06a​dvil> I guess the worst case scenario for this issue is that I might have to manually build an arm release 19:30:43 <06a​dvil> I can find no information whatsoever about that error, except that it normally happens when trying to run an arm build on intel 20:08:47 <09g​ammafunk> Thanks for that cao setup, advil 21:40:27 hm, our mac bundle identifier is net.sourceforge.crawl-ref, that seems non-ideal 21:51:18 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-69-g81e803b: fix: update some mac plist stuff 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81e803b10ab8 22:03:27 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-69-g81e803b10a (34) 22:21:46 <12e​bering> well I didn't estimate my time well this evening, so I have not had time to do a last round of cherry picking and get the release tag ready 22:23:01 <12e​bering> hm. has anyone done a manual pass? 22:23:15 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-70-g0c4cd36: fix: allow trog (and other divine allies) to spawn in clouds (12675) 10(7 hours ago, 2 files, 9+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c4cd367598c 22:23:15 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-71-ge854522: fix: prefer foes for default inner flame target (12676) 10(6 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e854522c8271 22:23:15 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-72-g1732ff4: fix: default runrest ignore transformation ending messages 10(14 minutes ago, 2 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1732ff48e733 22:32:10 <12e​bering> @advil 2e2478e390 had a merge conflict when cherry picking; I'm about done for the night so I skipped it 22:36:19 03PleasingFungus02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-39-gfaf98a7: Fix (?) orb of wrath uselessness check 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/faf98a795cd2 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-40-gceea671: fix: on the spellcasting menu casts the last spell again 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 78+ 86-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ceea67165d84 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-41-g420398e: fix: scroll of fear success chance (#12665, Yermak) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/420398e15ed1 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-42-g821e4fe: fix: standardize penance piety display (#12565) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/821e4fe75194 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-43-g65854b9: fix: restore spacebar behaviour in autoexplore autopickup prompt (#12671) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65854b9315ac 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-44-g112f460: fix: easy_floor_use when your (sub-)inventory is empty (#12667) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/112f4608eba0 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-45-g84bfac9: fix: time out drain when returning to a level (#12663) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/84bfac986ff4 22:36:19 03advil02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-46-gd0a7e76: fix: restore item class hotkeys to id menu (Lici) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0a7e767b669 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-47-gd9cf198: feat: allow closing the webtiles chat with F12 (Yermak) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9cf1984e355 22:36:19 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.28] * 0.28-b1-48-g9b4ae2e: fix: Numpad '*' and '+' in newgame menu (#12666) 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b4ae2e50704 22:36:19 ... and 22 more commits 22:38:36 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-72-g1732ff48e7 (34)