00:34:02 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1629-gf728b707aa (34)
00:54:04 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1629-gf728b707aa
00:55:42 <spicyCebolla> !kw badcrace
00:55:42 <Sequell> Keyword: badcrace => crace=basajaun|barachian
00:55:42 <spicyCebolla> !kw badchar
00:55:42 <Sequell> Keyword: badchar => BaEE|BaAK|BaCj
00:55:42 <spicyCebolla> ^ these seem odd
01:09:52 <spicyCebolla> !learn del slave
01:09:52 <Sequell> Deleted slave[1/1]: A few will be accompanying {Pikel}, a dark blue big kobold unique. They are humans. Gives no experience and becomes friendly on Pikel's death.
01:36:15 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4556-g06e78ff023
01:54:11 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-737-ge9035e85c9
02:18:12 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
03:26:02 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> !learn add slave see {pikel[2]}
03:26:02 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> Permission db:slave denied: proxying not permitted
03:26:11 <gammafunk> !learn add slave see {pikel[2]}
03:26:12 <Sequell> slave[1/1]: see {pikel[2]}
03:27:33 <gammafunk> =updatebadchar
03:27:50 <Sequell> Defined keyword: badchar => DjEn|DjAK|DjHu|GnCA|PaEn|OgCA|OpCA|SpCA|DECA|VpCA
03:28:16 <gammafunk> now it's much less odd
04:22:43 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4556-g06e78ff023
05:27:25 <Discord|> <03w​heals> !cmd =updatebadchar
05:27:25 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> Command: =updatebadchar => !kw badchar $(!lg greatplayers char=$(!lg * playable won s=char join:"|" fmt:"${.}" ?: N<15) playable s=char !boring / won title:"" join:"|" fmt:"${.}" ?: %<0.07)
05:28:23 <Discord|> <03w​heals> chars with less than fifteen wins by greatplayers that have a 7% or worse winrate?
05:29:01 <Discord|> <03w​heals> or rather, chars with less than fifteen wins overall that have a 7% or worse winrate among greatplayers?
05:48:28 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> it's a wierd little command
05:50:32 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> but I, for one, am a VpCA main
07:06:39 <advil> bgiannan: do you have a specific proposal about quivering letters? Keep in mind that that menu includes items, spells, and abilities
07:06:50 <advil> so it's not actually very easy
07:07:06 <advil> there's a not-bad proposal in a tavern thread right now
07:08:41 <bgiannan> advil, well i don't see why the letter could not be that of the item in the inventory?
07:08:52 <advil> because there might be spells or abilities on that letter
07:09:04 <bgiannan> ah i see
07:09:16 <bgiannan> (melee player busted)
07:09:21 <advil> it's possible to pick one, or to try to do some kind of matching
07:09:47 <advil> I've also wondered whether a section-based thing, like with the current read on ground menus, might work
07:09:51 <bgiannan> maybe do something similar to the wear command when something is on the ground
07:09:56 <advil> yeah
07:10:09 <advil> esp since I just fixed some of the annoyances with that menu
07:10:25 <bgiannan> great work on those btw
07:10:31 <advil> thanks!
07:11:23 <bgiannan> maybe it should be something else though, i don't see how "quivering an ability" makes much sense
07:11:36 <bgiannan> maybe it should be another command
07:12:32 <advil> depends on the ability, but consider makhleb destruction abils
07:12:47 <advil> right now if you really aren't using abilities/spells you might want to just macro Q to Q*
07:13:01 <advil> that was the Official Solution on initial merge
07:13:11 <advil> and I just haven't really come up with anything better
07:13:28 <bgiannan> i meant in the sense of the word "quiver"
07:15:03 <bgiannan> english is not my first language but does "quivering a spell" makes sense in english?
07:15:03 <advil> it kind of does in the crawl context, it's a generalization of the usual concept though
07:15:03 <advil> a quiver being (in crawl terms) a metaphorical place where you keep something you're ready to fire
07:15:24 <bgiannan> right but even in that sense it doesn't really work
07:15:33 <bgiannan> i get quivering bulletts, arrows etc.
07:15:44 <bgiannan> but quivering an ability/spell
07:16:27 <advil> that's why it's metaphorical
07:34:03 <advil> I think I've come up with an actual solution for this based on using the heading toggle stuff, might bend freeze rules a bit to commit it
07:34:03 <Aliscans_> You could macro Q to Q* even if you did sometimes quiver spells or abilities. Pressing / takes you to the "quiver which action" menu.
07:34:32 <Aliscans_> It's only when you go into the ability menu that this stops working.
09:07:58 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1630-g55149d5: fix: default `easy_floor_use` to false 10(67 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/55149d5790ce
09:07:58 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1631-g673f3e5: fix: clean up some messy use item menu code 10(6 minutes ago, 4 files, 124+ 99-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/673f3e5d6588
09:24:47 <perryprog> >one idea might be that if there's one item, assign it an actual (non-comma / non-letter) hotkey
09:25:18 <perryprog> Probably a good idea—I personally quite like easy_floor_use=true since having a character that will /always/ be the item on the floor is what makes it so convenient
09:26:27 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1631-g673f3e5d65 (34)
09:27:14 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1632-g283549b: fix: fix use item section toggle with arrow control off 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/283549b12f4c
09:28:29 <perryprog> I personally have a very common pattern of W,d;<enter>, which is currently only possible with that option enabled
09:28:29 <perryprog> But obviously that's why it's an option and all that :P
09:30:13 <advil> perryprog: well, `W,<ret>d;<ret>` will now do the same thing with that option off
09:30:23 <advil> it's one more key I grant you
09:30:26 <perryprog> oh neat, I didn't realize that
09:30:35 <perryprog> good to know it's still possible though with the default
09:33:01 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1632-g283549b12f (34)
09:34:52 <perryprog> this is a crazy and I'm pretty sure bad idea, but what if fsim was accessible without wizmode
09:34:52 <perryprog> probably bad item because it encourages minmaxing to the max (pun intended) and sounds extremely tedious to use in a real game, but I have thought about it several times
09:35:40 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> fsim does some pretty crazy stuff to game state and I don't think we are fully convinced it is actually safe
09:36:19 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> also there would be some issues with it being available online since the full thing can be pretty arbitrarily cpu heavy
09:36:41 <perryprog> oh that's understandable then
10:01:25 <spicyCebolla> !learn del advil_todo[2
10:01:26 <Sequell> Deleted advil todo[2/3]: work on https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/599
10:01:33 <spicyCebolla> good news - it's already done! ^_^
10:01:52 <advil> lol
10:01:55 <advil> ??advil_todo
10:01:55 <Sequell> advil todo[1/2]: what is up with the U2-U3 stairs in http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/saves/advil-crawl-0.21-180118-1647.tar.bz2
10:02:03 <advil> ??advil_todo[2
10:02:04 <Sequell> advil todo[2/2]: rewrite shopping list code to use stl except when serializing
10:02:30 <advil> I wonder if any dev has ever succeeded at remembering their learndb todo entry
10:03:11 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??ebering todo
10:03:12 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> I don't have a page labeled ebering_todo in my learndb.
10:03:18 <spicyCebolla> amalloy has a lot of entries
10:03:19 <Discord|> <12e​bering> !readall ebering
10:03:20 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> Cool unicode glyph set http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/crawl/glyphs.txt / Solarized iterm color profile for crawl http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/crawl/rl-solarized.itermcolors / Solarized rgb values for roguelikes http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/crawl/rl-solarized.txt
10:03:22 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I think I deleted mine
10:03:24 <Discord|> <12e​bering> yep
10:03:36 <Discord|> <12e​bering> just sweet console configs
10:03:50 <spicyCebolla> probably pakellas_todo could be removed?
10:04:23 <Discord|> <12e​bering> rods out
10:07:13 <spicyCebolla> &rc ebering
10:07:15 <Sequell> https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/ebering.rc
10:07:34 <spicyCebolla> two of my new teammates play console so they probably want yer rc stuff
10:07:42 <spicyCebolla> one's even on this "iterm" thing
10:16:07 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1632-g283549b (34)
14:48:49 <perryprog> I just want to mention again new spider is so, so great. It's a really welcome change, and I feel confident saying that now that I've had several games through it :)
16:08:40 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> alright, I would definitely like to merge this quiver improvement that I cannot fully justify putting fix: on, I think it'll address a longstanding issue
16:08:57 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I guess we should probably branch sometime too
16:21:10 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’m afraid to ask
16:21:31 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> also calling the easy floor items change a ‘fix’ was extremely cheeky :p
16:23:49 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I hit the wrong key one to many times, I call that a bug
16:23:51 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> 😛
16:23:59 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> *too
16:25:28 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-a0-1632-g283549b12f (34)
16:25:28 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> we did have a discussion about that opt a couple weeks ago so I felt moderately justified in making the change for the sake of UI consistency
16:25:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> not really objecting to the change, just amused by the prefix
16:29:03 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> fair
17:16:45 <Discord|> <03w​heals> i have no idea why i made it default to true to begin with :)
18:09:34 <perryprog> yeah, I think I was literally the only person who dissented when it was discussed, after all :P
18:52:15 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1633-gcc732e7: refactor: clean up some messy quiver menu code 10(8 hours ago, 3 files, 117+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc732e7c341d
18:52:15 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1634-gf64c0c3: feat: quiver menu section headings 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 76+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f64c0c316f3e
18:52:15 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1635-gc496ab4: fix: correct exit logic for ability quiver submenu (Aliscans) 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c496ab42f37c
18:52:15 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1636-g508f987: fix: fix some webtiles color string bugs 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 20+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/508f987c0700
18:52:15 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1637-gcc9c281: fix: guard against potential recursion in UseItemMenu 10(72 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc9c2818f3d8
18:52:15 <NotCheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-1638-g9123634: feat: quiver menu lettering improvements 10(13 minutes ago, 12 files, 292+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9123634e070e
19:21:56 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1638-g9123634e07 (34)
21:44:23 <Kelbell> crawlcharacter (L9 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1956: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (D (Sprint))
21:59:50 <Kelbell> crawlcharacter (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1956: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (D (Sprint))
22:10:20 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hm