00:33:05 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1429-gf3d713df7a (34)
00:55:23 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1429-gf3d713df7a
01:18:03 <amcnicky> Happy new year crawl devs! What's the current status of dpeg's random god proposal? https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:god:concept:random_god Is that a protected/actively being developed/already rejected idea, or is it the kind of thing that could conceivably be acceptable if someone poked code at it in the right way?
01:29:09 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> got some new hat tiles including one for @gammafunk to use in one of his vaults
01:29:09 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/929290617501147136/hats.zip
01:30:09 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/929290869243252746/hats-preview.png
01:31:07 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> bottom one is sort of the same as the old elven_leather_helm that exists
01:33:15 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4506-g453a05f5f4
02:17:39 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
04:23:29 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4506-g453a05f5f4
08:01:39 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Awesome, thanks a ton. Unfortunately no way currently to make randarts use specific tiles, although I can look into that. I think it would also need doll tile? Maybe appropriate one exists already
08:02:34 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> it's in the zip file
08:11:44 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @hellmonk got an idea 5 u. steelbarb worms barbs seems a bit redundant since so much of spider is fast. but still cool. wdyt about making them beefier, ood, rF++ and somehow geh-flavourable
08:12:18 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Oh thx
08:13:28 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Geh is still the weakest of the new hells, some barbs might help the creeping infernos land firestorms better
08:14:23 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Wonder if the barb damage would need to be higher
08:14:39 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Actually maybe I don’t know what they do
08:14:55 <Discord|> <12e​bering> theyre fast and AF_BARB
08:14:57 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> If it’s not manticore barb
08:15:31 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> yeah I guess barb damage could add up somewhat even in geh
08:17:56 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> @ebering do you want to swap them with some other spider monster in difficulty or just move them
08:18:13 <Discord|> <12e​bering> just move them
08:19:29 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> lil worried that'll make the mid tier spider enemies a bit empty
08:19:38 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> maybe still worth thinking about
08:19:56 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> Hell Worms p cool theme
08:20:26 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I think the spider mix is pretty good mid-tier wise, seemed so in my recent playthroughs
08:20:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I guess in my head some of the weaker packs as a unit count mid-tier
08:20:50 <Discord|> <12e​bering> since they swarm
08:21:00 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> sure
08:38:36 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> amcnicky: don’t think anyone on the dev team has discussed it in depth for many years. I’m personally very skeptical that this could turn into something fun - designing a god is quite hard, and this is effectively trying to design many, many gods that work well together.
08:38:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> but i could be wrong!
08:47:03 <NotCheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.28-a0-1430-ga82b073: fix: use abyss regeneration for wizard level regeneration 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 12+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a82b07310124
08:50:46 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1430-ga82b073101 (34)
09:16:29 <amcnicky> cool! I suspect you're right, though I may have a toy around and see if I can convince myself that it can be fun. I like to think there's a streamlined version of the vision, leaning on a smaller set of more atypical conducts, and a smaller set of strong powers, that when blended together in a somewhat cohesive way could be interesting for players to try out. Perhaps the powers could only reveal as you gain piety, like how
09:16:29 <amcnicky> revealed throughout the run - I know I enjoy ds largely for the sense of not knowing what unexpected new character trait is around the corner.
09:20:18 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> reasonable
09:21:14 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I think the tricky thing is going to be the conduct
09:21:26 <Discord|> <12e​bering> 20 years of crawl has taught us that "don't eat X" and "only kill Y" aren't great conducts
09:22:48 <elliptic> IMO conducts aren't really necessary
09:23:34 <elliptic> just having a god that gives a random power at each * seems like it could be feasible and fun, I definitely think they should only reveal as you get to that piety
09:24:07 <elliptic> the ds comparison is good I think
09:29:54 <perryprog> As a player, I would definitely play it
09:30:22 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
09:30:23 <perryprog> Just because that sort of random sometimes-crazy combinations based fully on RNG is really fun
09:30:30 <Pinkbeast> ... but you do have to ask (as with faded altars) why HOM would take it
09:30:32 <perryprog> Kinda similar to why Xom is fun to play
09:31:34 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> yes, agree that the phase of conduct-based god design passed many years ago
09:31:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> and ru put the nail in the coffin
09:31:47 <NotCheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.28-a0-1431-g3e8e36a: fix: nerf seracfall 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e8e36ac5f5f
09:31:47 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1432-g39c23d7: Update waypoint docs (Slacking) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39c23d704c72
09:33:00 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> re HOM: think you could set up a 'random god' such that the worst-case and average power are both reasonable
09:33:00 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1431-g3e8e36ac5f (34)
09:38:11 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1433-gec1d498: Woodcutter/dreamshard tiles (Sastreii) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec1d49878bc0
09:47:32 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1433-gec1d49878b (34)
09:52:20 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> Name the randgod pakellas 2 pls
09:59:12 <Discord|> <12e​bering> put in evo enhancing as a randgod power too
09:59:16 <Discord|> <12e​bering> just for the tribute
09:59:35 <Discord|> <12e​bering> one day I'll get sequell beh permissions and add a rods out behavior for when it sees pakellas mentioned
09:59:36 <Discord|> <12e​bering> one day
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10:15:21 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1433-gec1d498 (34)
10:18:09 <Aliscans> Just wondering, is Ashenzari supposed to strip you naked instantly when you abandon it? I can see that _ash_uncurse() has never checked whether anything was actually cursed, but it seems a bit odd.
10:20:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> canofworms: merged, thanks! 🙂 these are great
10:22:13 <NotCheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1434-g0490bf5: New hats (CanOfWorms) 10(7 minutes ago, 13 files, 46+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0490bf50c2f6
10:26:26 <Discord|> <12e​bering> oops that's def a bug
10:29:18 <NotCheibriados> New branch created: pull/2343 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2343
10:29:18 <NotCheibriados> 03Aliscans02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2343 * 0.28-a0-1434-g5f05946: Stop artefact amulets of faith from flashing on first worshipping Gozag. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5f059466fae1
10:34:30 <spicyCebolla> that's a pretty spicy kind of penance, Ash
10:34:57 <NotCheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.28-a0-1435-g82390b3: fix: don't strip ashenzari abandoners naked (Aliscans) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/82390b3a1331
10:43:14 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1434-g0490bf50c2 (34)
10:47:32 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1435-g82390b3a13 (34)
13:56:20 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
14:36:01 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> metaphorically it represents being stripped of your knowledge and returned to a state of ignorance, before clothes, evocative of the garden of eden
16:24:03 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-a0-1435-g82390b3a13 (34)
23:34:41 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1435-g82390b3a13 (34)
23:56:15 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1435-g82390b3a13