00:53:55 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1286-g6bde065e89 00:57:22 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1286-g6bde065e89 (34) 01:32:27 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4506-g453a05f5f4 02:17:45 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 02:40:38 <09gammafunk> finally I can retire Spider Rework branch on cdi 04:23:48 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4506-g453a05f5f4 09:03:41 03kate-02 07* 0.28-a0-1287-g73c4ac0: Give Portal Projectile a static targeter 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73c4ac0421e8 09:03:41 03kate-02 07* 0.28-a0-1288-g700d31d: Add some new wizards as potential spellbook owners 10(87 minutes ago, 1 file, 51+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/700d31dd17dd 09:09:27 <10PleasingFungus> oooh 09:11:15 <10PleasingFungus> you know how unrands that get banished can reappear in the abyss? 09:11:15 <10PleasingFungus> that's been broken for a year and a half 09:11:15 <10PleasingFungus> (also it was absurdly rare to begin with...) 09:11:15 <05kate> nice 09:11:15 <05kate> i always assumed it basically never happened in practice anyway 09:12:00 <10PleasingFungus> i could try to make it more common if you did lose an artefact, butm like 09:12:03 <10PleasingFungus> how 09:12:34 <10PleasingFungus> (how are you losing artefacts in the abyss, that is) 09:15:04 <05kate> i think it's probably fine to just get rid of it entirely, yeah 09:15:54 <05kate> since you can already "lose" unrands by finding them in a bazaar and being unable to afford them or whatever, i think? 09:16:00 <10PleasingFungus> would believe that 09:16:04 <10PleasingFungus> also by giving em to a trove 😛 09:16:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1289-g8a08cb6: Minor artefact refactoring 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a08cb6da883 09:16:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1290-g77e7774: Fix unrands being able to reappear in the Abyss 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/77e77742e6c7 09:17:39 <10PleasingFungus> and by choosing something else in acq 09:17:39 <10PleasingFungus> maybe? 09:17:39 <10PleasingFungus> not sure about that one actually 09:17:39 <05kate> i had thought that acquirement generating an unrand means it can't show up again after that but i haven't looked into it to confirm, yeah 09:17:39 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1288-g700d31dd17 (34) 09:18:10 <05kate> the commit you linked to claims that's the case, at least: unrands that place outside of levelgen (acquirement) [...] should always cause later instances of that unrand to simply be replaced with a fallback randart 09:18:21 <10PleasingFungus> hm, i suppose that'd be consistent 09:19:09 <10PleasingFungus> anyway, feel free to remove 09:19:26 <10PleasingFungus> i'm mostly working on unrelated things 09:19:50 <05kate> yeah, pretty low priority either way but maybe i'll get around to it sometime 09:22:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1291-g91df554: Pass item_level into make_item_unrand 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/91df5548d3de 09:27:55 <09hellmonk> oh boy, big unrand changes coming? 09:32:35 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1291-g91df5548d3 (34) 09:36:16 New branch created: pull/2309 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2309 09:36:17 03Goratrix02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2309 * 0.28-a0-1292-g9f38829: Small tweaks to LCS tiles 10(15 minutes ago, 8 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f38829179df 09:36:45 <10PleasingFungus> it's 50/50 09:36:45 <10PleasingFungus> either i change em or i don't 09:37:27 quick bikeshedy question—should the option name for https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2245 be something like "autopickup_decide_on_sight" with a default of true (current behavior)? I can't think of any super intuitive name since the behavior itself isn't too intuitive to begin with. 09:37:38 <10PleasingFungus> nothing wrong with a nice bikeshed 09:37:59 <10PleasingFungus> hm, exactly one unrand has the unided bool set (octoking rings). i wonder if that does anything 09:39:28 ultimately confusing the end user is a good goal to strive for 09:39:43 wait do I have that backwards? 09:41:28 <10PleasingFungus> no, sounds right to me 10:27:58 also on the subject of bikeshedding that option name, I suspect the option description in https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2310 could use some work. 10:31:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1291-g91df554 (34) 10:33:00 New branch created: pull/2310 (4 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2310 10:33:01 03Perry Fraser02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2310 * 0.28-a0-933-gfe1217e: fix: don't force picking up of newly IDd equipment 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe1217ecbd69 10:33:01 03Perry Fraser02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2310 * 0.28-a0-934-geeac9de: feat: add option autopickup_decide_on_sight 10(21 minutes ago, 4 files, 34+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eeac9de632f3 10:33:01 03Perry Fraser02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2310 * 0.28-a0-935-g3c8e4c7: refactor: simplify new option's implementation 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c8e4c73731b 10:33:01 03Perry Fraser02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2310 * 0.28-a0-936-gf813620: fixup! feat: add option autopickup_decide_on_sight 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8136209cfcc 11:11:57 04Build failed for 08master @ 77e77742 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1624466121 11:19:00 04Build failed for 08master @ 700d31dd 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1624438943 11:35:58 New branch created: early-morning-early-game (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/early-morning-early-game 11:35:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1292-g5768bfe: New unrand: Danyla's gloves 10(72 minutes ago, 5 files, 44+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5768bfe33d87 11:35:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1293-ge296292: Make Danyla's less likely later 10(46 minutes ago, 3 files, 22+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2962924087a 11:35:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1294-gcd23455: Add a guarded unrand vault for Danyla's 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 33+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd234551fb0a 11:41:17 as if I needed more justification for my already questionable habit of quaffing down mystery juice found in a dungeon that wants to kill me. Cool unrand! 11:41:54 <10PleasingFungus> ty : 11:41:56 <10PleasingFungus> 🙂 12:01:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1295-g7162f2e: Allow artefacts to spawn on D:2-3 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7162f2e8d2b7 13:05:44 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1296-gc72b024: New unrand: woodcutter's axe 10(28 minutes ago, 5 files, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c72b02496e7d 13:05:44 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1297-g4eccff9: Add a guarded unrand woodcutter's axe vault 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 29+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4eccff9759c5 13:12:11 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1298-gb7dead7: Add a fireplace 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7dead7376b2 13:12:59 03paul02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2219 * 0.28-a0-1292-g473a127: Add a rare Ignis-themed vault 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 52+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/473a127b26b5 13:12:59 03paul02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2219 * 0.28-a0-1293-gb7c3667: Fix comment on pow_rolls default value 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7c366713647 13:12:59 03paul02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2219 * 0.28-a0-1294-gc3f740d: Fix off by one error in a temple vault altar count 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3f740df4136 13:13:32 Coo, a +8 vorpal axe with 1.0 delay would be a superweapon early 13:13:32 PleasingFungus, fyi: Danyla is a male name in Russia. 13:15:32 <10PleasingFungus> yermak: ah, good point 13:25:03 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1299-ge12eec1: Force woodcutter's axe to speed 10 (hellmonk) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e12eec13cae8 13:30:28 Just realized that PR's like that Ignis one give a really good opportunity for some environmental lore/storytelling—that's pretty neat. Surprised I never realized vaults could be used like that. 13:48:23 <08nicolae> vaults can only be used for shops and killing the player 13:49:14 <10PleasingFungus> nicolae, review my amazing vaults 13:49:40 <10PleasingFungus> also happy boxing day! to those who celebrate 13:53:27 * merryprog is now disillusioned 13:56:56 <08nicolae> okay. phoneposting so i can't go in depth but in danyla's i think the FTILE left side ahould be .de123- 13:58:25 <10PleasingFungus> oh ty, i forgot i added an ftile 13:58:25 <10PleasingFungus> good call 13:58:25 <08nicolae> and possibly G but there's both internal and external statues so you might need two glyphs, one of which gets ftiled 13:58:32 <10PleasingFungus> i’ll probably just cut one pair 13:59:42 <08nicolae> also works 14:00:19 <08nicolae> woodcutter's looks okay at first glance 14:01:30 <10PleasingFungus> tyty! 🙂 14:02:00 <10PleasingFungus> any opinion about threats by depth, or would you have to mess around ingame? 14:07:04 <08nicolae> yes, woodcutter's should place one gnoll sergeant band and one gnoll shaman band per D level 14:07:59 <08nicolae> threats by depth seem okay to a preliminary eyeballing 14:08:14 <10PleasingFungus> i like the way you think 14:08:39 <10PleasingFungus> ty again! appreciate it, as a humble smol novice vaultsmith 🙂 14:09:20 <08nicolae> any time! i look forward to wielding an early game unrand 14:35:26 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ 4eccff97 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1624854742 14:37:45 gha network issues? 14:38:32 <05kate> seems like it yeah, looks like the last few builds have all had that same error 14:39:01 status page says everything's okay though 14:39:13 then again who's checking reports today? 14:40:00 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ b7dead73 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1624863171 14:41:17 hm, seems like ID-ing by process of elimination hasn't happened for my one remaining potion to ID, invis. 14:43:40 <10PleasingFungus> perryprog: i believe it'll trigger once you actually find one such potion 14:43:40 ah, okay 14:43:40 <10PleasingFungus> this confused me too recently before i remembered 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1300-geec7401: Refactor early-game unrand weights 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eec7401ba33a 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1301-ge8c3ca9: Fix danyla ftiles (nicolae) 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e8c3ca9a9d75 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1302-gbc4bb43: Shift more unrands to be early-game 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc4bb43191d9 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1303-g3ff1136: Move Lear's to the early-game 10(24 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ff11367487e 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1304-g63c7866: Move the Mace of Variability to the early game 10(15 minutes ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63c786611d7e 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1305-gacf6ce3: Explain no_upgrade 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/acf6ce3ab6f1 14:48:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1306-g7f7fbb7: Move the Trident of the Octopus King early 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f7fbb748bb0 14:56:53 <05kate> mace of variability guarded unrand vault should be a variant yiuf hut with extra gnoll friends imo 14:57:25 <05kate> since he is already both a fan of chaos and of maces 14:58:32 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ e12eec13 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1624888771 15:04:12 and also an actual fan (at least in his mind) 15:06:55 <10PleasingFungus> oh, right, i meant to add some of these early game unrands as unique loot 15:07:09 <10PleasingFungus> also i should probably fix up existing guarded unrands 15:07:19 <10PleasingFungus> (fun fact: variability already has one!) 15:08:52 New branch created: pull/2312 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2312 15:08:52 03Perry Fraser02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2312 * 0.28-a0-1292-g0ae6048: fix: remove extra spaces in irradiate's messages 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ae60481120b 15:13:41 Okay, just did a run of spider as my second lair branch! https://gist.github.com/perryprog/a21400dda0c3613e1c0645445701b572 15:13:41 Honestly, I really really like it—the much larger amount of variety in monsters is super interesting and it feels way less monotonous than oldspider. I honestly don't have any thoughts besides that because nothing stood out as too tricky or too ouchy; I had some close-ish moments, but it was all very manageable and felt as what a lair branch normally felt like. (Granted, this is a very strong melee character that has slouch, so it's 15:13:41 probably on the side that can deal with spider much more easily than another build.) 15:53:12 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1307-gb5286d8: New early-game unrand: Throatcutter 10(29 minutes ago, 6 files, 72+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5286d85988b 15:53:15 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1292-gb4563b2: Remove zombie deep dwarf damage shaving 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b4563b27b366 15:54:42 <08nicolae> ring which gives you rpois and will++ but only as long as you don't have a god (and aren't related to a god) 15:55:49 <10PleasingFungus> ha, atheist item is cute 15:55:55 <10PleasingFungus> i’ll put it on the list 15:56:45 <10PleasingFungus> not necessarily with that effect 15:57:21 <10PleasingFungus> also think it’s fine for it to be just good for dg, potentially; players are allowed to be happy sometimes 15:57:29 <10PleasingFungus> ideally shortly before they die 15:57:30 <08nicolae> yeah i was just trying to think of stuff that would be nice in the early game 15:57:31 <09hellmonk> "crown of temporary untorment" that gives you +20% hp but breaks (and torments you) if your total hp gets too high 15:57:38 <10PleasingFungus> uh 15:57:47 <10PleasingFungus> bold 15:57:54 <09hellmonk> gotta play to the memes 15:58:28 <10PleasingFungus> i was vaguely thinking of something that triggered on the player being at low hp in absolute (not % terms) 15:58:30 <08nicolae> where in the crawl design philosophy doc does it say players are allowed to be happy 15:58:34 <10PleasingFungus> 27 hp or below, or something 16:00:56 unrandart that kills you if your HP becomes less than or equal to 0 16:00:56 revolutionary 16:00:56 <10PleasingFungus> truly bold 16:00:56 Throatcutter is neat. I dig the name. 16:00:56 It struck me yesterday that non-Fo must often (almost always?) sequence break on Tomb:2 by teleporting. I wonder if it should be impossible to teleport into the wrong half of W:1 or W:2? 16:00:56 <08nicolae> weapon whose base delay in auts = your xl 16:02:01 * merryprog mutters something about my unrandart idea where less player health = significantly lower base delay 16:02:20 (I still really like that idea) 16:02:36 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1292-gb4563b27b3 (34) 16:04:03 <09hellmonk> I always assumed that sequence breaking tomb was a feature tbh 16:04:29 <09hellmonk> you can also sequence break it from tomb:1, though that's a bit more tedious without shatter 16:04:41 It often leaves me in an odd position where I plug along the Tomb:1 corridor of greater mummies just for completeness 16:05:33 (and gives a pecular incentive to, if you don't do that, haul every even minimally useful object off Tomb:3 in case you want it later) 16:07:21 <09hellmonk> clearly should just make tomb notele (please don't actually do this) 16:08:39 legitimately crazy mechanic idea: throwable stilettos/dagger thingies. Vastly more scarce throwing item, but almost never mulch (if ever) and do significantly more damage than other throne pointy things. As a bonus extended crazy mechanic idea (and this is very much inspired from another game I used to play, for the record), make the player have to individually wield the stilettos individually, but give the option to juggle them which 16:08:39 allows much faster throwing and removes the wield requirement, while also slowing your movement and preventing common actions that require hands. 16:09:07 (The juggling stilletos things that you throw is the only part that I'm copying from another game.) 16:15:33 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ 7162f2e8 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1624744432 16:20:17 04Build failed for 08master @ b4563b27 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625138119 16:23:17 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-a0-1292-gb4563b27b3 (34) 16:23:40 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ b5286d85 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625131052 16:24:51 Oh—the gloves of infusion interaction with manifold assault is intentional, right? Currently the mana drain is applied to every target hit, so it ends up draining your mana quite fast when used with it. This seems fine to me, but just wanted to make sure it wasn't an oversight. 16:25:24 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1308-gbce37cc: Tweak Throatcutter desc 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bce37cc45660 16:26:39 <10PleasingFungus> seems right 16:26:39 <10PleasingFungus> re tomb, think the simpler 'fix' would be to remove tele traps & tele exploration effects from tomb; that'd still leave teleportitis mut, but that's not particularly common or scummable 16:26:54 <10PleasingFungus> not convinced there's a need for a fix, though 16:27:56 PF: er am I missing something? Why not scrolls? 16:31:02 <10PleasingFungus> teleportitis yanks toward enemies, normal tele doesn't 16:31:18 <10PleasingFungus> latter is less likely to hit the relatively small target of eg the tomb:1 corridor 16:31:24 <09hellmonk> think the original point was about using telescrolls to cheese tomb 2 16:31:29 <10PleasingFungus> was it..? 16:31:30 <09hellmonk> by going into the second half of it 16:33:00 <09hellmonk> I mentioned tomb 1 afterward because you can also do it there, but less consistently 16:33:00 <10PleasingFungus> maybe i misread 16:33:00 <10PleasingFungus> i assumed we were talking about tele traps and effects (since that's how i 'cheesed' tomb:2 last time i did it) 16:33:00 <10PleasingFungus> don't really care at all about people using consumables, anyway 16:35:59 hellmonk has it right - not so much even intentionally cheesing it as that if I teleport a few times on Tomb:2 until I can't see a sea of nasties the odds are quite good I've sequence-broke whether I meant to or not. 16:36:31 (It struck me yesterday that it's the first time I've "legitimately" plugged along the corridor of greater mummies for some time) 16:39:22 <10PleasingFungus> fair 16:39:43 And the more I think about it the more the odd situation where I should scoop up anything I might want later from W:3 is, well, very odd. 17:03:31 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ bce37cc4 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625193549 17:16:28 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1309-g9e3dec3: Move the Robe of Augmentation to early-game (Lici) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e3dec3aee42 17:20:00 * Pinkbeast blinks in "finished in Augmentation" 17:20:11 <10PleasingFungus> ? 17:20:24 <10PleasingFungus> also, name bikeshedding: danyla -> daelana? 17:20:37 <10PleasingFungus> (other suggestions welcome. not really a lot of requirements for this name) 17:21:17 "It's just not that strong" says the commit, but now I look I seem to have thought it was the best armour in the entire game twice. Maybe I just have very poor judgement. :-) 17:22:20 <10PleasingFungus> heh 17:24:08 (MfAK^Lucy and TeAE^Ash, FWIW) 17:30:41 <08nicolae> encalio. coliane. ioclane. loneica. neocial. 17:30:52 <10PleasingFungus> heh 17:30:57 <10PleasingFungus> half of those sound like prescription meds 17:31:09 <10PleasingFungus> and/or sicillian poisons 17:31:31 <08nicolae> they are, that's how i can make all those amazing vaults 17:32:41 <10PleasingFungus> doletzia 17:32:52 <08nicolae> without my daily 150mg of loneica i could never come up with putting a dragon in an arrival vault 17:33:39 <10PleasingFungus> daelatra 17:34:05 <08nicolae> delatra sounds cool 17:34:15 <10PleasingFungus> more like delete ra 17:34:22 <08nicolae> delaetra if you want the ligature in there 17:34:25 <09hellmonk> make a mace of ambien, idk what it does 17:35:07 <10PleasingFungus> weirdly, there are more google results for delaetra than delatra 17:35:10 <08nicolae> unrand potion, you drink it, wake up in a random part of the level or a deeper level, blood and corpses everywhere, 17:35:35 <10PleasingFungus> shrug, going to choose one at random for now 17:36:57 <09hellmonk> potion of kill everything in los but u fall asleep 17:36:57 <10PleasingFungus> ty! 17:36:57 <08nicolae> welcome 17:36:57 <08nicolae> joak (jeans cloak) 17:41:20 <08nicolae> Danyla -> Big Jim 17:42:05 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1310-gd65f22a: Rename Danyla -> Delatra 10(2 minutes ago, 8 files, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d65f22a96fa2 17:43:24 <10PleasingFungus> -> Big Bill's Hell 17:43:41 <08nicolae> sad there's no reddit thread about Big Baal Hell's yet 17:50:49 <10PleasingFungus> your day will come 17:52:14 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ 9e3dec3a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625284001 17:52:59 Oh god I don't understand duration-data.h because the "midpoint" _isn't the midpoint_ 17:53:10 <10PleasingFungus> lol 17:53:36 <10PleasingFungus> sorry, yeah, that wasn't a great name 17:53:47 <10PleasingFungus> sort of difficult to describe 17:54:10 <10PleasingFungus> 'nearish-the-end-behaviour' 17:56:12 Particularly struct decrement_rules asserts "/// What happens when a duration hits 50% remaining" 17:56:12 (submit make that "hits the expiry threshold") 18:00:10 <10PleasingFungus> it's a bit annoying, since the lie is scattered through an awful lot of code 18:00:15 <10PleasingFungus> see _decrement_a_duration, for example 18:00:37 <10PleasingFungus> but yes, everything that talks about 'mid' is lying 18:00:47 <10PleasingFungus> this is probably my fault 18:00:49 Yeah, but don't make perfect be the enemy of good - removing that lie from that comment in duration-data.h would be a boon 18:01:03 <10PleasingFungus> oops, 5c2cb368445 18:01:09 <10PleasingFungus> me, 2015 18:09:00 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ d65f22a9 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625340568 18:34:21 03paul02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2219 * 0.28-a0-1293-gf0dc37a: Add a rare Ignis-themed vault 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 49+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0dc37a4b5c2 18:34:21 03paul02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2219 * 0.28-a0-1294-g2e6d37c: Fix comment on pow_rolls default value 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2e6d37c9dbf6 18:34:21 03paul02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2219 * 0.28-a0-1295-g62c13e2: Fix off by one error in a temple vault altar count 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62c13e20ba6a 19:08:36 <08nicolae> the hat of hiding from god, you put it on and you can worship any god, regardless of how they typically feel about your species, but if you take it off they kick you out immediately 19:15:21 <09hellmonk> at long last i can play mu of ely 19:15:33 watch out for those horns muts 19:26:28 unrand potion of you sip it and wake up here https://xkcd.com/914/ 19:27:24 <08nicolae> you're right, it should be an amulet 19:44:07 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1311-g5340608: New early-game unrand: staff of the Meek 10(59 minutes ago, 8 files, 57+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/534060807ec4 19:44:07 03PleasingFungus02 07[early-morning-early-game] * 0.28-a0-1312-gbcf489e: Add a guarded Meek vault 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 30+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcf489ea0baf 20:04:39 <05kate> hmm, what happened to @crawlcode and why is it tweeting a link to some guy's youtube channel 20:04:39 <10PleasingFungus> uhh 20:04:39 <10PleasingFungus> let me look 20:04:39 <10PleasingFungus> that sounds quite wrong 20:04:47 ooo new qstaff unrand. Awesome 20:07:52 <05kate> looks like an automatic tweet that you can get youtube to post when you upload a video, i guess someone has the twitter login that shouldn't? or this mystery youtube person is also a secret crawl dev who forgot to log out 20:12:21 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ bcf489ea 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625600620 20:13:24 <10PleasingFungus> i reset the pw, deleted the tweet, and disabled all associated apps 20:13:36 <10PleasingFungus> no other sessions logged in 20:13:55 <05kate> mysterious... 20:14:38 <10PleasingFungus> there were two apps associated that i hadn't added, tweetdeck and something else 20:15:07 <10PleasingFungus> no idea who added em, maybe |amethyst... or maybe a mysterious interloper... 20:15:26 it was a christmas gift 20:17:32 <05kate> had a scroll back through its history since i had the page open, and this one made me laugh out loud https://twitter.com/crawlcode/status/798691523344748544 20:17:32 !source god-passive.cc:461 20:17:32 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/god-passive.cc#L461 20:17:32 nice 20:18:40 <10PleasingFungus> there's some misses in there but also some gold 20:18:43 hahaha https://twitter.com/crawlcode/status/824779350188793857 20:20:22 <10PleasingFungus> truth in comments 20:20:30 <10PleasingFungus> https://twitter.com/crawlcode/status/797299769315995652 don't you miss these days? 20:21:11 <09gammafunk> Too bad a food mimic could never eat corpses 20:21:26 >miss those days 20:21:26 they never left 20:22:03 <08nicolae> one of my vaults got posted to crawlcode 20:22:32 you're famous™ 20:24:04 <10PleasingFungus> %git ae2e04ec6546dd1efbe6d8f6171f29dc981bb372 20:24:04 <10PleasingFungus> hm 20:24:04 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1822-gae2e04e: Remove skeletonless skeletons from Hell 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae2e04ec6546 20:24:04 %git ae2e04ec6546dd1efbe6d8f6171f29dc981bb372 20:24:04 aww 20:24:05 <04Cerebot> PleasingFungus * 0.19-a0-1822-gae2e04e: Remove skeletonless skeletons from Hell (5 years ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae2e04ec6546 20:24:40 the code in this one still horrifies me 20:25:05 0.0 20:25:30 <10PleasingFungus> you may ask "why did that fix the bug?" 20:25:33 <10PleasingFungus> or "did that fix the bug?" 20:25:36 <10PleasingFungus> and i would have no ability to answer you 20:25:56 what /was/ the bug?! 20:26:25 <10PleasingFungus> skeleton monsters were being generated in hells, but they were derived from monsters that did not have skeletons 20:26:30 <10PleasingFungus> eg skeletons of giant slugs 20:26:39 <10PleasingFungus> or of air elementals 20:26:39 <09hellmonk> missing the days of small zombie zombie 20:26:41 wow 20:26:44 <10PleasingFungus> we all miss that 20:26:52 that makes that commit so much worse (better?) 20:28:49 <10PleasingFungus> if you were curious, that code randomly chooses either 0 (skeleton), 1 (zombie), or 2 (simulac), and then does a lookup in lut ('look-up table') to make those indexes to MONS_SKELETON, MONS_ZOMBIE, etc 20:30:30 <10PleasingFungus> these days it's written: const int skel_chance = mons_skeleton(mg.cls) ? 2 : 0; mg.cls = random_choose_weighted(skel_chance, MONS_SKELETON, 8, MONS_ZOMBIE, 1, MONS_SIMULACRUM); 20:30:30 I mean admittedly it's not the worst way of modeling it once you know what the Magical Constants™ mean 20:30:30 <10PleasingFungus> there's really no reason for a lookup table, tho 😛 20:30:35 <10PleasingFungus> (presumably why we removed it!) 20:30:40 I'm just trying to hold on my sanity 20:30:51 <10PleasingFungus> i assume there was an earlier version that did deep magic to create those numbers 20:31:03 <10PleasingFungus> before the use of random_choose_weighted was introduced 20:33:36 <10PleasingFungus> https://twitter.com/crawlcode/status/606524327144628225 this is probably still around 20:36:57 as it should 20:37:26 It's not, but a shred of it lives on as validate_player_name() 20:43:25 <10PleasingFungus> aw 20:43:25 <10PleasingFungus> oh well 20:46:46 the tweets of .des syntax are just cheating. Everyone knows that those subst/kprop lines are just random gibberish! 20:49:56 (Seriously though, no matter how many times I read through the SUBST documentation I can never transfer that knowledge into understanding what the heck something such as NSUBST: D = ^ / -, E = ^ / -, H = - / " SUBST: F = -, JK = ", ' = ^-, " = ^^-, d = dd$ is supposed to mean) 20:50:23 <10PleasingFungus> perryprog: same 20:50:29 <10PleasingFungus> it's very high level genius 20:50:52 I can /sometimes/ get the single. line (N)SUBST's but once you have the multi-line combinations it's just like... what 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1293-g54527cc: Explain no_upgrade 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54527cc1f403 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1294-g1f8817c: Allow artefacts to spawn on D:2-3 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1f8817ceeab4 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1295-gf9a06f6: New unrand: Danyla's gloves 10(11 hours ago, 5 files, 44+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9a06f655c40 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1296-g7890d4b: Make Danyla's less likely later 10(10 hours ago, 3 files, 22+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7890d4bb0384 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1297-ga9f0482: Add a guarded unrand vault for Danyla's 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 33+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9f048274c78 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1298-gfcf6033: New unrand: woodcutter's axe 10(8 hours ago, 5 files, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fcf603317402 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1299-g8882887: Add a guarded unrand woodcutter's axe vault 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 29+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88828878fed1 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1300-g07e9fc7: Add a fireplace 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07e9fc738cd2 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1301-g2b8dd8e: Force woodcutter's axe to speed 10 (hellmonk) 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b8dd8ea68dc 20:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-1302-g4d69e0e: Refactor early-game unrand weights 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 16+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d69e0ec34ab 20:55:12 ... and 10 more commits 20:57:53 <10PleasingFungus> oops, meant to squash that fireplace commit 20:57:54 <10PleasingFungus> oh well 21:00:27 Here you go: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Winter_Squash_Cucurbita_pepo_2000px.jpg 21:20:32 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1312-g71652a0310 (34) 21:29:50 04Build failed for 08early-morning-early-game @ 71652a03 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625741600 21:38:08 04Build failed for 08master @ 71652a03 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1625741614 23:34:39 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1312-g71652a0310 (34) 23:50:49 <08wormsofcan> the meek vault should spawn purgy the meek, imo 23:56:18 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1312-g71652a0310