00:18:39 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1235-g7c8fac35f0 (34) 00:53:59 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1235-g7c8fac35f0 01:29:46 <09gammafunk> yeah, that's certainly an example. You'd not want to auto tag areas containing transporters like that with no_tele_into, I think 01:31:06 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4481-g8e2a1bd45a 03:16:28 -!- tiobot is now known as Guest7719 04:22:17 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4481-g8e2a1bd45a 09:49:37 <10PleasingFungus> (wooting) 09:49:41 <05kate> better name suggestions welcome, and also probably more importantly if anyone understands stepdowns better than me it's probably worth checking that the change there makes sense 09:49:58 <10PleasingFungus> "removes the cap of 120 on enchantment power" !!! 09:50:02 <10PleasingFungus> did we really have a cap of 120 09:50:25 <05kate> we did! but i don't think you'd ever hit it outside of agony at near max power 09:50:49 <05kate> because enchantments do some nightmare extra stepdown things and that's the post-stepdown cap 09:51:25 <10PleasingFungus> lol 09:51:44 <10PleasingFungus> also can't believe you'd call that function "supposedly" deprecated 09:51:57 <10PleasingFungus> it's only been deprecated since 81dbb70c507 (2012)! 09:52:06 <10PleasingFungus> a piddling 9.5 years 09:52:32 <05kate> it certainly claims to be! but there sure are a lot of places that still use it 09:52:41 <10PleasingFungus> wow, only 14 places 09:52:48 <10PleasingFungus> practically a rounding error 09:52:51 <10PleasingFungus> ( 😛 ) 09:53:10 New branch created: enfeeble (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/enfeeble 09:53:11 03kate-02 07[enfeeble] * 0.28-a0-1236-g222f12a: Add a new L7 Hex: Enfeeble 10(5 days ago, 15 files, 150+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/222f12aa6bfc 09:53:11 03kate-02 07[enfeeble] * 0.28-a0-1237-g0b81c76: Make enchantment power use a smooth stepdown 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b81c76b03fc 09:54:26 <05kate> i also had a brief moment of being side-tracked by ensorcelled hibernation and decided i extremely do not have the power untangle its extra stepdown on top of the normal enchantment stepdown 09:54:26 <10PleasingFungus> lmao 09:54:26 <10PleasingFungus> fair 09:54:26 <10PleasingFungus> i should work on some of the other hex ideas i have 09:54:26 <10PleasingFungus> gonna make 0.29 the version of hexes 09:54:51 <10PleasingFungus> oh i actually didn't notice this was branch only 09:55:15 <05kate> ah yeah, i think it's probably good to go but was just looking for a bit of feedback first and maybe some name bikeshedding 09:55:48 <10PleasingFungus> mind if i do a lil bit of code cleanup? 09:56:09 <05kate> not at all, go for it 09:56:42 <10PleasingFungus> also think the description might need some fine-tuning to make it very clear which parts check will and which don't; right now it sort of hints in that direction, but suspect players will still be confused 09:56:45 <10PleasingFungus> i mean, they usually are confused 09:56:49 <10PleasingFungus> so that's not a very risky bet 09:57:07 <05kate> i did try to make that part pretty clear in the targeter, when you aim it at something it should be pretty descriptive 09:57:38 <10PleasingFungus> i can think of at least two players who will decide not to memorize it because they thought the description sounded too weak 09:57:42 <05kate> you get "will weaken, x% chance to daze/blind" etc when aiming at something, depending on what they're susceptible to 09:58:07 <05kate> but yeah, wouldn't hurt to be a bit more explicit in the spell description 09:59:16 <09hellmonk> Implement player blindness so I can give this spell to the head instructor in yara wizlab 09:59:25 <09hellmonk> tia 10:00:48 thought it was already implemented. or did it get de-implemented? 10:00:48 <05kate> it could probably also have different messaging depending on if it succeeds at the full effect or not (and maybe include the resist margin messaging there? i'm not really sure how useful that is now that we have % success rates) 10:00:48 or was that a special for that april fools jester thing? 10:02:36 <10PleasingFungus> i think it might've showed up on a branch or something 10:02:59 <10PleasingFungus> i don't think it was ever in mainline, iirc grunt kept threatening to add it and other people argued against 10:04:29 monsters could throw pies for blindness when jesters were in, but that was only for a week 10:05:18 <10PleasingFungus> huh 10:05:28 <10PleasingFungus> oh, on the subject of name bikeshedding 10:07:01 <10PleasingFungus> this is a d&dism, but i know one person who'd be quite happy if it was called 'prismatic ray' or some such nonsense 10:07:01 <10PleasingFungus> other thoughts: greater debilitation, mark of the witch, 10:07:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1235-g7c8fac3 (34) 10:07:01 <12ebering> Maxwell's Eneverating Electrode 10:07:01 <12ebering> (: 10:07:13 <10PleasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/923985176382566430/unknown.png 10:07:18 <12ebering> rude 10:07:20 oh, I'm otherwise remembering nethack. just remembered #wipe :( 10:07:24 <10PleasingFungus> hey, i didn't click it 🙂 10:07:26 <10PleasingFungus> ...yet 10:08:53 <05kate> i sort of like the curse-y flavour and was trying to lean into that with the description, so something around debilitation might work, yeah 10:09:49 <09hellmonk> Yara's Ray of incontinece 10:09:55 <10PleasingFungus> sort of funny/unfortunate? that we already have two other meanings of curse (ash cursed items, mummy death curses) [though i don't remember if the latter are referred to as curses in-game] 10:09:56 <10PleasingFungus> lol 10:10:16 <12ebering> they are 10:10:27 <10PleasingFungus> Malefication 10:10:35 <10PleasingFungus> Khufu's Curse 10:11:38 <10PleasingFungus> (tbh probably better not to lean more on khufu, given he's one of our very weird 'this is just a real world figure' uniques) 10:12:09 03PleasingFungus02 07[enfeeble] * 0.28-a0-1238-gd409d5e: Code tweaks 10(7 minutes ago, 4 files, 18+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d409d5e2670b 10:13:27 <10PleasingFungus> Yara's Concentrated Malice 10:14:42 <09gammafunk> enfeeble isn't a bad spell name 10:14:55 <09gammafunk> guess it doesn't sound very "epic", but it's only L7 10:15:28 <09gammafunk> speaking as someone who's never given a spell and overly fancy spell name (and never would), maybe a simpler name is better 10:15:42 04Build failed for 08enfeeble @ 0b81c76b 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1619742331 10:16:19 <05kate> ah oops, i guess monsters should not be able to cast it 10:16:21 <10PleasingFungus> l7 is pretty high 10:16:22 <10PleasingFungus> lol 10:19:50 <10PleasingFungus> i kinda like some variant of the concentrated malice idea, w theme of the caster gettin real mad and then magically distilling their ill intent into nastiness. not sure about the best name tho; do agree w gamma that short and punchy can be nice 10:19:50 <09gammafunk> summon hydra and dragon form are L7 spells that likewise just do what it says on the can, in terms o fspell names, at least 10:19:50 <05kate> i quite like the single-word simplicity yeah, but it feels like it could maybe be a little more dramatic-sounding than enfeeble if there's a good synonym 10:19:50 <09gammafunk> it's kind of a downer to be the bikeshedder who just keeps recommending "taupe" though 10:19:56 <10PleasingFungus> lol 10:22:24 <09gammafunk> thesaurus suggests "lay low", "prostrate", "knacker", and "torpefy", all excellent choices 10:24:58 03kate-02 07[enfeeble] * 0.28-a0-1239-gc1dd9b5: Don't let monsters try to cast Enfeeble 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c1dd9b5231fc 10:26:15 <09hellmonk> Mage's Malding 10:26:37 <10PleasingFungus> lol 10:26:57 <10PleasingFungus> 'unfortunate side effect of causing hair loss in the caster?' 10:27:18 <09hellmonk> Ya, the first time you cast it it sets hair to none on yr tiledoll 10:27:24 04Build failed for 08enfeeble @ d409d5e2 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/1619776629 10:28:34 <10PleasingFungus> my god 10:48:37 <12ebering> @hellmonk merry xmas I think I'm done w/bailey feedback 10:48:59 <09hellmonk> Ty, will look tonight 10:49:22 <09hellmonk> Nothing like some Bailey's on Christmas eve 11:21:00 <08nicolae> https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/enfeeble 11:21:41 <08nicolae> "Enervate" is always a good word imo 11:24:12 <08nicolae> https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/malediction gives us "whammy", which you should 100% use 11:33:05 <10PleasingFungus> i did consider enervate, but it felt too 'negative energy' to me 11:33:09 <10PleasingFungus> great word tho 11:36:42 <08nicolae> "Debase" "Blight" "Vitiate" "Enfeeble" "Spoil" "Fuck Up" 12:02:26 <10PleasingFungus> vaguely surprised we don't already use blight anywhere 12:02:30 <10PleasingFungus> also amused at your suggestion #4 12:09:59 <08nicolae> suggestion #4 just felt right 12:17:27 "Prank" 14:35:42 Punishment 14:35:42 despair! 14:35:42 cast despair and discord and dismay! 16:23:48 <10PleasingFungus> despair is fun 16:23:48 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-a0-1235-g7c8fac35f0 (34) 16:55:53 no, that's the opposite of despair... 17:13:49 03kate-02 07[enfeeble] * 0.28-a0-1240-g65ec51b: Improve Enfeeble messaging and description 10(6 hours ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65ec51b76349 19:16:04 New branch created: pull/2306 (23 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-476-g16e20b1: df 10(3 months ago, 97 files, 3111+ 221-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16e20b1a74ca 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-477-g3bf244b: more zot-defence reverts 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 8+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3bf244b32df4 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-478-ga3b98fb: More zotdef stuff 10(3 months ago, 5 files, 36+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3b98fb556cb 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-479-g1a5ab86: More ability.cc changes for zotdef.cc 10(3 months ago, 5 files, 4823+ 214-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1a5ab86399ca 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-480-gedd913d: A bunch of tiny updates to code 10(3 months ago, 9 files, 58+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/edd913dcc18e 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-481-ge50ca31: More fixes needed to compile 10(3 months ago, 7 files, 92+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e50ca3135621 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-482-gf6491e5: Game was crashing when loading zotdef. 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6491e522e61 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-483-g5f51003: Fix zotpoint display? 10(3 months ago, 3 files, 17+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5f510034d848 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-484-g5be4b13: We need mechanical traps for zotdef 10(3 months ago, 21 files, 567+ 99-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5be4b136a5e1 19:16:10 03Gopall02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2306 * 0.28-a0-485-ge9ce9af: Removed monsters cause crash 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 10+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9ce9afec4d1 19:16:10 ... and 13 more commits 19:26:04 <10PleasingFungus> wow 19:26:45 <10PleasingFungus> enabling grenades… 19:47:20 03hellmonk02 07* 0.28-a0-1236-gb25a51b: nerf Tukima's Studio 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b25a51b929bc 20:02:55 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1236-gb25a51b929 (34) 20:26:43 <09hellmonk> tfw you realize the bailey map that places all the elec halberd gnolls is tagged bailey_axe and has been for probably a decade 20:33:04 <10PleasingFungus> probably 20:33:04 <10PleasingFungus> halberd is a kind of axe (?) 20:33:04 <10PleasingFungus> can’t believe kate nerfed that classic bailey btw 20:43:15 <08nicolae> cowardice. you should have buffed the other wizlabs instead 21:20:18 <10PleasingFungus> oh, nice call re boomers 21:20:23 <10PleasingFungus> we definitely have too many of those 21:20:50 <09hellmonk> thank mr bering for that one 21:20:59 <09hellmonk> still need to do one more fixup before I call this good 21:23:01 03hellmonk02 07[bonmotte] * 0.28-a0-536-gbeae6fa: various bailey fixes 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 42+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/beae6faefa58 21:23:01 03hellmonk02 07[bonmotte] * 0.28-a0-537-g00bc974: delete boomers 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/00bc974067f5 21:23:47 Branch pull/2158 updated to be equal with bonmotte: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2158 23:34:39 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1236-gb25a51b929 (34) 23:55:56 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-1236-gb25a51b929